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In kyokushin karate is there highly developed clinchwork like in Muay Thai? If not, do a lot of kyokushin schools bring the clinch training developed by the Thais into the dojo to supplement their karate? Is the clinch allowed in kyokushin tournaments? If the mainline schools don't train this way, do any of the offshoots of kyokushin incorporate these skills?
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I'm not a kyokushin pratitioner but I've worked with several blackbelts from japan in the early to mid 90s. Not sure if things have changed since Mas Oyama died, but during the era before his death there was some limited clinching allowed in the tournaments. From what I understand though, you could not grab with your hads. you could only control an opponent with the open palm which made it difficult to keep an oppenent in close quarters. I'm sure it varies from one person to the other but the two individuals that I worked with were nearly helpless when you got ahold of their head.
Many of the other organizations the broke from kyokushin such as seido kai kan and shidokan incorporated clich work a great deal more from what I understand. |
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I am learning full contact karate but it is a little modified as my instructor also knows Muay Thai. We are allowed to knee in the clinch and have hits to the face when we have our gloves on. We also train without gloves (no hits to the face) and with shin kicks and without.
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Is everything still "secret" or what? Lost in the forms? Has anyone really looked at the goshinjutsu? Not only do you have so called "clinch" but also stomping, knee strikes, sweeping, reaping, locking, choking and throwing...Karatedo may be primarily a (hard) striking art but it is also about realistic self defense.
Legal in the tournaments? Probably not or you wouldn't need to ask... I hold no rank so don't take MY word for anything...
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