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Tant01 · 04-17-2008, 10:51 PM

It is known as the principle of asshu or assaku which means compression...

In judo such compression movements are considered 'hishigi', (hiji hishigi).

There is much debate about the legality of this hold and it is most often used to set up the straight arm lock.

DickHardman · 04-17-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tant01

It is known as the principle of asshu or assaku which means compression...

In judo such compression movements are considered 'hishigi', (hiji hishigi).

There is much debate about the legality of this hold and it is most often used to set up the straight arm lock.

i would use the armlock attempt as a setup for the bicep slicer. no need to armlock em if you can destroy their limb from right there as he is defending. the guy from my academy that had his arm broken wasnt a small guy either, he is well over 6 feet tall and he still went into shock from the injury. no need to even go for the armbar in real life, only for training.

Tant01 · 04-17-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DickHardman

i would use the armlock attempt as a setup for the bicep slicer. no need to armlock em if you can destroy their limb from right there as he is defending. the guy from my academy that had his arm broken wasnt a small guy either, he is well over 6 feet tall and he still went into shock from the injury. no need to even go for the armbar in real life, only for training.

The IJF rules prohibit this form of hishigi used as a submission and most BJJ tournaments won't permit it in the lower ranks. For GOOD reason!

**Hardball** · 04-18-2008, 06:47 AM

Dick the example you posted does not show the move clearly, can you post another example?

Tant01 · 04-18-2008, 10:25 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pSlicer014.jpg

Tant01 · 04-18-2008, 10:30 AM

Cesar Gracie - BJJ Part 3 Video - Metacafe

Tant01 · 04-18-2008, 12:56 PM

Another BJJ version...

YouTube - Biggie Slicer Biceps Crush from Guard

Another>

YouTube - crushing de biceps

DickHardman · 04-18-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardball

Dick the example you posted does not show the move clearly, can you post another example?

YouTube Video

bodhisattva · 05-05-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tant01

Well, nice to know SOMEbody is reading the topic. Thanks kindly DH.

I think it's safe to say you could take this stuff straight to your BJJ academy and "test" it on your fellow students but sadly the MMA/BJJ folks shy away from the "Japanese Arts" board. Too bad. I keep hoping to start a thread that will just shoot to 300 posts in a week but that's a pipe dream.

I think if the same techniques were presented up there it would get more attention?

Lets find out, shall we?

Shoulder locks are illegal in Judo and BJJ players will think the shoulder lock(s) is (are) an elbow lock. Any bets?

Who is REALLY paying attention? (I wonder) LOL

Join me on the MMA board?

You know, I find lots more MMA guys these days respect Judo a lot more than they did just 5 years ago - and definitely more than they did 10 years ago.

That's my experience..

I used to hear "yeah, but their throws don't work" and now I hear "Some of that stuff they do is really wicked if you can learn to do it from over/underhooks."

I've always liked Judo. I consider it one of the most complete arts out there - and they ALWAYS practiced alive.

Tant01 · 05-10-2008, 04:31 PM

Here's a sweet little Uchimata combination to a knee bar you may enjoy?

Thanks to Sambosteve for hosting the Utube vid clip!

What a guy!

YouTube Video

04-17-2008, 10:51 PM	#61 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 4,284	It is known as the principle of asshu or assaku which means compression... In judo such compression movements are considered 'hishigi', (hiji hishigi). There is much debate about the legality of this hold and it is most often used to set up the straight arm lock. __________________ While the old form, jujutsu, was studied solely for fighting purposes, Kano's new system is found to promote the mental as well as the physical faculties. T. Shidachi, 1892

04-18-2008, 06:47 AM	#64 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 3,153	Dick the example you posted does not show the move clearly, can you post another example? __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Mike Brewers 2008 Sit up challenge 23,000/100,000 running balance.(Crunches) Kicks 6,000/100,000

04-18-2008, 10:25 AM	#65 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 4,284	http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pSlicer014.jpg __________________ While the old form, jujutsu, was studied solely for fighting purposes, Kano's new system is found to promote the mental as well as the physical faculties. T. Shidachi, 1892

04-18-2008, 10:30 AM	#66 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 4,284	Cesar Gracie - BJJ Part 3 Video - Metacafe __________________ While the old form, jujutsu, was studied solely for fighting purposes, Kano's new system is found to promote the mental as well as the physical faculties. T. Shidachi, 1892

04-18-2008, 12:56 PM	#67 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 4,284	Another BJJ version... YouTube - Biggie Slicer Biceps Crush from Guard Another> YouTube - crushing de biceps __________________ While the old form, jujutsu, was studied solely for fighting purposes, Kano's new system is found to promote the mental as well as the physical faculties. T. Shidachi, 1892

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