Jujujason

What do you guys think about Ashihara and/or Enshin karate?

Tant01

In some ways they go against what "Karatedo" allegedly stands for. In so far as Kyokushin(kai) supposedly expelled Ashihara back in 1979.

(Geeez I'm old...) Anyway... They both have a history of championships in Japan and "world" level players.

Some folks call it "Fighting" karate... If I were looking to learn Karate I might start there.

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James Paterson

Jujujason

Do you know what Ashihara was expelled for? Also, what are your thoughts on Joko Ninomya? It's funny how Enshin resembles Ashihara, but he 'invented' it.

Tant01

Nope.


Mostly politics, he had a bad rep in Kyokushin since the mid 60's. (for fighting)

One of his students won the title in Japan in 78 and shortly after that he was expelled...(or quit depending on your source)

I doubt anyone (Ninomya) really invented anything new. The principle of taisabaki has been around longer than either of them. Not to diminish his acomplishments in the art.

To each his own, eh?

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"In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur."

James Paterson

Tant01

It's not much of a stretch to see why if you know that Ninomya was the student of Ashihara that won the all Japan title in '78...

Small world, eh? LOL

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"In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur."

James Paterson