Wushu

[DavinWest]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if you could help me with something.

I am really interested in JKD, except the only school I can find is quite far from me.

What do you all think of Wushu? There is a school near me and I am interested in learning from whatever is useful

so what is your opinions?

[Water Dragon]

Good Chinese Martial Arts are one of the best investments you can make. Bad CMA are one of the worst. If you find yourself collecting forms, Don’t go. If you find yourself spending a huge amount of time on 1 or 2 movements, with the instructor continually checking your form giving small refinements and explaining them in terms of expressing power, you found yourself a winner.

Real CMA are much more concerned with power development than technique. First you learn how to develop raw power, then you ingrain it so you don’t have to think about the mechanics. Only then do you learn how to apply that power to technique. This is the same thing as most good boxing schools not having you spar for a year or two. Your training, if real, should feel almost “scientific. Learning CMA is like learning mathematics. Count then add and subtract, then multiply, THEN comes algebra.

CMA are boring at times (as you’re not learning a million techniques) But the first time you hit someone on the arm and their feet leave the ground, it’s worth it. Have patience and good luck.

[GinSueDog]

I have to agree with Water Dragon here. Check out the school, from what I hear though I believe Wushu is more concerned with the competition format then appling it to combat, but I could be wrong.-ED

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[Chopstix]

i have to agree with what water dragon said, about it being scientific..
eeh, sorry, nothing much to say, cus this is first post back! ahhhh

[Water Dragon]

Ed,
A lot of the old Chinese still call the arts Wushu. Generically it translates to military art. The term is still used freely by those who learned and practiced during the Sino-Japanese war. When it comes to CMA (especially in U.S.) you almost HAVE to check out the school to see if it's good.

That is until you get in the loop. Then you go Old School and go by recomendations

[Holdfast]

Hey Davin,which school is it?

[DavinWest]

Hey man! whats up?
it is called
FLINT WING CHUN KUNG FU
do you know anything about it at all? like if it is good or anything?

[Holdfast]

Is it the one on Pierson rd or the one in Clio?

[DavinWest]

It is the one on Corunna Rd

[Chad W. Getz]

Just remember to express yourself and explore yourself. Learn what you learn in the classroom, but practice it. If you're looking for realistic, you have to make it work for yourself. Good Luck.

[Holdfast]

Is it the one across from wal-mat? I checked them out a bout 4-5 yeas ago if it's the same folks that run it, they seemed nice enough, but the one guy told me he used his Wing Chun to submit a Judo black belt. It may be true, I don't know. I don't know much else about 'em. I think they are connected with the guy in Clio.

[Holdfast]

Davin, check your e-mail

[DavinWest]

Holdfast that is an great idea!

[quietanswer]

i believe i was reading one of professor yang jwing ming's (is that his name? maybe i got it wrong) books.. he says that when china was forced to relinquish it's martial arts, the only one allowed still was wushu. Wushu became a conglomeration of martial art techniques, but mainly the gymnastic, beautiful (innapplicable) ones. Wushu was no more a fighting art as olympic gymnastics is.. just human body movement that loosely related to fighting. It's only been in the last twenty years that the chinese have dug deep to reopen the hidden knowledge within their martial art...or..more precisely perhaps, shared it with us that they still remember.

if you'd asked me ten years ago about wushu, i'd say it's one step better than tae kwon do..roughly, it will teach you enough to get beat up badly. however, who can say now? yan jwing ming's books are impressive.. his credentials as a fighter are also impressive. i have never had the experience to fight with a chinese martial artist that i thought was worth his salt (nor have i had much experience with it anyway).. but i'm convinced that their are wushu practitioners that are as valid as any other artist.

i don't believe (anymore) that you can recieve "bad martial art" training. I do believe that some people don't fully know how to apply the techniques they use, yet can fight better than their students, so they remain in business. I think whatever you do to learn martial art is going to help in the long run...sometimes it jsut takes a few years after having changed styles to realize the wisdom that was hidden within your original style, and your teacher didn't see.

wushu is fine..i'd suggest (personally) judo for the starting fighter..dunno how much expereince you have, but if you can find a good judo club (lots of hard, HARD contact wrestling mixed with excellent technique instruction and groundfighting..some judo schools really lack in the ground fighting department..while some really excell) i'd recommend that. judo would have been an excellent foundation for the rest of my fight training, had i started with it..

that's just me tho.