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Old 09-24-2004, 06:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I would like to know what you guys and gals think is jkds biggest threat weather it is another martial art or its teaching system or anything you guys and gals can think off please post your opinions thanks.
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What are you talking about? With something as constantly evolving like JKD, what can threaten it? Stupid questions like this?
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JKD's biggest threat is that it risks becomig irrelevant in todays world of cross-training MMA fanaticism.

Too many people rely on the "techniques" of JKD and ignore the tactical arsenal that has evolved as part of the art. It is that tactical arsenal that not only sets JKD apart today, but will continue to mark JKD's significance in the world of the future.
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The disappearance of JKD as both an art and philosophy and its replacement with the agenda's of people eager to cash in on the name...
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I would like to know what you guys and gals think is jkds biggest threat weather it is another martial art or its teaching system or anything you guys and gals can think off please post your opinions thanks.
Which JKD? Who's JKD? I've adopted a PERSONAL definition of JKD and interpretation of its spirit: "whatever works for me" or more accurately, "collection of techniques I can actually execute" <- I don't think anything can threaten that.
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The biggest threat to JKD is a gun.
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you guys have come up with valid pionts Myself i dont think there is just one threat although the gun comment was pretty funny. I was just curious in what you guys thought were its major problems i think most are internal not external problems when it comes to JKD what do you guys think?
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IF by 'JKD' you mean the techniques that Bruce Lee used (a la 'Jun Fan Gung Fu'), then I would say there is quite a lot of focus on parrying and trapping which may not work in a real-life situation, so I think the biggest threat to that kind of JKD is an opponent who is quick to shoot in and takedown and is good on the ground. BL's arsenal was notedly lacking in ground stuff AFAIK.

BUT If you take my personal interpration of what JKD means to me, I guess the biggest threat to it would be if the opposite was proven.

So if my definition of JKD is "a collection of techniques that works best for me", the biggest 'threat' to that would be someone coming along and saying:

"NO! I have proven that it's 'better' to adopt techniques that DO NOT work for you!"

or

"NO! I have proven that all you need is technique ABC, and NOTHING else!"

and many variations and degrees of the above.

So you see how your question does not really make all that much sense from my perspective?
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Biggest threat? Relativism with no substance.
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Biggest thread when people start to like or dislike.

ryu = no jdk
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If you mean what is JKD's weakness? Well it shouldn't have any because you are trying to adapt to your oponents movements. It's more of a concept so therefore your really just taking the basic structure of JKD and adding and subtracting what works/doesn't work for you.
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That's the best compliment I think anyone's ever paid me.
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The whole "JKD is what works for you" is not all it is cracked up to be. Lot's of people think that what they are doing is what works for them, and they may or may not be right. What if the highly stylized happens to work for someone? Is what they are doing JKD? I think not. That is far too simplistic way of thinking about JKD. Didn't Jigoro Kano take what worked best for him? Morihei Ueshiba? Gichin Funakoshi? Mas Oyama? et al. Did they practice JKD? To truly understand JKD we must understand the root. We must go beyond our personal likes and dislikes and simply adapt to what is.
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I agree with the notion that the biggest threat is people percieving it as a "style" rather than a philosophy.

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I compete NHB because for me, it is a way to test my stuff out on a resisting opponent. I want to make sure what I train really works. Competition is different than sparring with the people you care about that you train with. I am not the type to pick a fight to test it out, so I have found an outlet. As far as "cashing in" there is no considerable money in NHB comps (especially for people like me) I do view my training as an "art" and that is why most NHB schools are not suitable for me. For me it goes beyond winning a fight and "cashing in", I take it all very personally and learn from it to make me a better person all in all.

I don't train JKD to make me a better NHB fighter, I fight NHB to make me a better JKD practitioner and ultimately grow as a person. I am sure there are alot of people that may disagree with this, and if you do, please tell me - I'd be interested to know why.
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