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    Does anyone know any martial artists who use academic titles like professor, PhD, MA, etc which are questionable? a good article on the subject is found at : http://www.e-budokai.com/articles/titles.htm.

    Anyone know anything about the academic background (schools where the graduate degrees, PhD, MA, etc., were received, what the degrees were in, or what college they may have taught at if they use the title professor, etc.) of any of the following individuals:

    Professor Silverio P. Guerra

    Professor Carter Hargrave

    Dr. Richard Hackworth

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    How about the infamous Dr. Nick Riviera??

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    good one Tom

    I've often said that many so called 'masters' out there are the modern day snake oil salesmen. I wish there was a way to regulate all of it. . . .

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    Dr. Jerry Beasley has an EDd in Physical Education

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    I wish there was a way to regulate all of it. . . .
    I know what you mean, the problem with regulating something is that the 'regulators' are often more interested regulation than performance.

    In computing, for instance (my field), there are all sorts of certifications a person can get - Almost universally testing for one of those certs. means memorizing a bunch of arcane, outdated crap for the test and then forgetting it as quickly as possible. Similarly, there are lots of 'genuine' black belts who aren't any good at all but are certified by some organization or other.

    It seems to me that most regulation attempts, even if started with good intentions, eventually only regulate whether or not you have jumped through the right hoops and paid the appropriate fees. having a drivers license doesn't equal being a good driver, nor does having a college degree say much about a persons intelligence or ability to reason, for example.

    What a universal regulation system does do is protect the certified from competition and expose the un-certified to lawsuits. MMA versus Boxing provides a good example of this - Many states don't (or didn't) allow Mixed Martial Arts competitions and the superficial reason given was often that the board which regulated fighting in that state ruled MMA was dangerous and unsportsman-like... the real reason was that the 'board' was made of boxing people who liked thier monopoly.

    Besides protecting the 'certified' a regulation system also prevents new ideas. People who want to try something new must first become certified in the old. Imagine if Ajarn Chai had showed up in the United States to introduce Muay Thai and the first TKD school he showed up at called the regulatory commission and got him fined or kicked right back out the country?



    I guess I'm kinda hitting the deep end over a casual comment, but I'd really much prefer the system we've got in boxing and Muay Thai and other styles:

    The only qualificatons that matter are 'Can I do it better than the guy across from me?' AND 'Can you teach me to do it better than I could yesterday?'


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    Greg, I have to agree with you. Does Blackbelt X have the skill and ability if so why should he have to pay association y to prove it.

    Your thread was just basic "common sense". Something the world could use more of. IE "Common Sense"
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregimotis
    I know what you mean, the problem with regulating something is that the 'regulators' are often more interested regulation than performance.

    In computing, for instance (my field), Thanks for hearing my rant to the end
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    Print *, "Gregis posts get better after" N(I) "beers"
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    oh..oh..oh...I just gotta jump in here too.

    integer intNum;

    for (intNum = 1; intNum <= 20; intNum++)
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    Console.WriteLine("Gregis posts get better after {0} beers.", intNum);
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    touche !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Yum

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    Ohkay, that REALLY hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregimotis
    Ohkay, that REALLY hurt!

    39f00a3a 982b4cd1 423bc3aa ee89a332 55de2f21 ff5d5bc3 78de45ac ac78e427 in your 124.3.255.0:88!
    My French is a little rusty...

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    Professor means teacher (every level, not just university) in Portuguese.

    English teachers in Thailand are called ajarn, just as English teachers in Japan are called sensei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aseepish
    Professor means teacher (every level, not just university) in Portuguese.

    English teachers in Thailand are called ajarn, just as English teachers in Japan are called sensei.
    Hey!

    If ya want to fit in on this thread, you MUST write your message in some kind of computer code....jj

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    All I ever learnt was BASIC.
    "It was about that time I realized that searching was my symbol, the emblem of those who go out at night with nothing in mind, the motives of a destroyer of compasses." -Cortázar

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    you mean

    PRINT "If ya want to fit in on this thread, you MUST write your message in some kind of computer code.txt"
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