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Old 12-26-2000, 12:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok everyone this is for the instructors and student how do you conduct your class. For instance if your class is 1hour and 10 minutes do you do:

10 minutes warmup
20 minutes pads
20 minutes techniques
20 sparring

Tell me what you all usually do
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All of my classes are 90 minutes and usually consists of the following:

20 minutes warm-up

20 minutes drills for basic techniques

20 minutes pads or techniques

30 minutes attributes/conditioning or sparring

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for myself, i spend most of my time throwing my techniques to a bag or a shield. i will do about half and hour of sparring. with my students i am usually their sparring partners, that is where i get most of my cardio from (maybe if i do the bags by the round). i will stretch about 10 minutes to get started, then in between sets while i work out. but whether i am doing the sticks or my hands and feets, i will do about 45 minutes of throwing my attacks to something (bag, shield, person moving around with mitts) then about 20 to 45 minutes of shadow boxing to work on my feet and speed.

for my students begineers, the will always do about 10 minutes of workout (stretching, crunches and sit ups and pushups by the minute) then 20 minutes of targets and bag, and about 20 minutes of sparring.

when we do sparring i will work on two or three things for each class only, but we do 10 or five second matches. this is how it works:
attackers have five seconds to land a left leg shin kick to the defenders body or thigh. the defenders have the same five second to land a right leg thrust kick. then we will do the five second matches about 20 of them, then switch the sides. of course we will use any technique this is just an example. we can do it with hands, or sticks or whatever.

for freestyle sparring, i will usually have a mission for the fighters, like land 10 left hand straight punches to the chest in this match, or something like that. this keeps them thinking when they fight.
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We do a very taxing conditioning routine, with general warmup then a series of calisthenics that vary second the day:

Monday: Muay Thai (mainly strikes)

Wendsday: Clinch and takedowns

Friday: Groundwork and sparring

We didn't do many drills, rather, after grasping somewhat a technique, we try to use it in conditioned sparring.

For example, we don headger then one try to cut the other's head off while he defend slipping.

Sometimes I think that our training is somewhat caothic, but so is fighting for real.
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We currently get together on Monday nights, Wednesday nights, Friday nights, and Sunday mornings. Mondays we work our standing up striking and ground positioning(straight JJ-no strikes). Wednesdays, we work our clinch and ground-with strikes. Fridays, standing up striking and clinching with strikes. Sundays, we start off with knife sparring with fencing mask and aluminum daggers. I have a routine set up where everyone goes through progressive drills-with the mask on. Example-we work controlling the long range with the mask, someone tries to send your head into next week-there are a few drills taht we work for this. Next some drills with the mask again working on taking the guy down-various ones, some for just shooting in, some with timing, some with some other little "things"-all with the mask against real punches. Fights. End the day with a talk about what we learned and how we can improve. Stickfights get thrown in on Sundays, as well as some stick practice-not much people want to learn...actually want to do...real contact stickfighting, so there is no schedule set on practicing it, just some stuff that some of the fighters work on, but not much for now.

Personally, I've started working out on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays-skipping rope, running lines, running though public housings late at night and banging on people's doors... and I'm looking into checking out Egan Inouye's class maybe once a week or so.
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Hey Chad, wassup,bro? Hope you had a great xmas, mine sucked big time, I spent it at work...

BTW it seems we have a pretty similar training routine, except that on sunday morning I do some serious shooting; right now I'm working my axx off to get proficient with shotgun.

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I'd like to go shooting, it's just so damn expensive for the indoor ranges here. And the weekends we save for the field for those five hour training days where everyone wants to grab a cold one at the end of the day.

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BTW it seems we have a pretty similar training routine, except that on sunday morning I do some serious shooting


Someone once told me, "People that actually fight will evolve towards similar training methods"

Well, hope you salvaged some cheer from the xmas season anyway, and have a good weekend coming up...I can't remember but I know something is going on this weekend. I'll be sure to stop by and grab a cup of coffee when I make it to Italy, and to follow you to practice.

BTW, I enjoyed the Marrio Sperry tape per your recommendation to someone else. Any other good tapes, there are so few out there.

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Hm. I train with a friend. Currently, we only train two days a week, though normally we'd train 3 or 4.

thursdays is striking day. we work basic punches, jabs and crosses with focus mitts. we work elbows to all angles with them, and mix footwork and movement in as well. we keep it basic and work to maximize our application of some basic stuff. we go for power speed ambidexterity and mobility.

we spar with light head gear and 12-16 oz gloves depending on the day. we usually fight long rounds, going for 8 minutes, sometimes more. Sometimes we fight really hard, sometimes we just work for technique and patty-cake. We get our share of bruises I guess.

We stick spar. We don't much in the way of stick drills right now. We spar with all lengths and sometimes use dummy knives as well. We'll also frequently spar with a stick and a boxing glove on our other hand, knife and boxing glove, also with knife and buckler, and stick and buckler. Our weapons are lightly padded. we still get some nasty screwed up lumps bruises and welts..however.

Sundays is throwing/groundfighting day. We train some basic throws. hip throw, shoulder throw, reaps, double legs, and ankle picks. then we do our up-wrestling for long rounds. if it goes down we fight for dominance for 5 seconds and stand again. ground work is some drills from the harris tapes and some judo. then we have our ground play til we're passing out from exhaustion. we really go all out with all the locks..no spine or neck locks..of course..no fingers either, as a rule. toes though, on occasion.

Both days we spend about 3 hours. We start with some light drill as a warm up, stretch, and finish with stretching as well. I have to, as I have injuries from wrestling and snowboarding.

my private workouts are currently mostly about incorporating various drills with triangle footwork. . I do calisthenics and bike. I start tai chi in late january with a local teacher of some esteem. In february i'm starting at a rickson gracie school nearby. the teacher has an extensive judo background as well in both brazil and japan, as well as some competitive western boxing experience: so he's almost tailor made to my preferences. They have a succesful submission fighting team as well. That will probably alter what my friend and I do in our work outs..
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Usually when I train or teach I try to make the entire workout revolve around one conept. This way, if I am teaching a class, people are more apt to actually grasp the idea behind the techniques which are being taught and can use that information to become more creative in their own personal training.

When I am training on my own, I usually start out quite basic, say the practice of a single technique back and forth with a training partner, and then gradually build from there, increasing the speed of the technique in question and also adding a greater level of variability both in offense and defensive options available. It gradually becomes full sparring, but you never lose sight of the original goal.

As an example, I might do a 3 minute round of just throwing single jabs back and forth with a partner. This allows each person to become familiar with the line a attack and well as developing the rear hand defense (or any defense you wish to develop against that particular attack).

The second round might involve a double jab, the third round, each person can on occasion throw in the cross if they feel that their partner is getting lazy.

I'm gradually increasing the level of variability as well as the stress level as we do more rounds. Eventually when you take it into regular sparring, you'll have a tool that is significantly more developed that it was when the training session began. Not only that, but you are now in more of a mental state to spar properly. The previous rounds "got the synapses firing" so to speak. You are more aware of what's going on and you have a heightened level of awareness.

While training like this, I've noticed dramatic increases in the areas of skill that I've targeted. When I do spar, it also keeps me focused on my own personal goals. Too many people seem to think that the focus of sparring is to defeat the other guy. I've gone through that phase of training as I'm sure many people have. I now try to look at sparring as being an exercise in the development of timing and distance.

Just my own two cents.
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