Benny The Jet vs. Philip Holder?

fenwick99 · 05-21-2005, 05:18 PM

There has been a rumor going around for some time, the Benny Urquidez lost a challenge match (bare knuckle) to the so-called Grandmaster Dr. Philip Holder of American Wing Chun, or Yee Gi Ying-whatever it is called now.
If this is true, it would have some bearing on the BL v. BU issue.

These jkdjfgf messageboard really disappoint me, like the whole crapload of crap about Wong Jak.
I would rather be trolling pro rassling m-boards-- thier chat about fiction is more real than this crap.
sayonnara forever, long like Bruce Lee

LatinoHeat · 05-31-2005, 10:33 PM

Phillip Holder Versus Benny Urquidez that I would love to see considering Benny Urquidez has Blackbelts in 20 different Martial Arts Systems and has also studied both Japanese & Muay Thai Kickboxing as well as Grappling under Gokor & Gene Lebell. He has 200 fights no losses.
As well as having fought a Death Match in Hong Kong & beaten 4 World Class Muay Thai Kickboxers.
Now thats only a small bit of information regarding Benny Urquidez.
Lets face it Bruce Lee was a good Instructor & Martial Artist yet he would have been seriously beaten up had he entered the ring against Benny Urquidez who fought in real Kickboxing Competions as opposed to the Movies & a few minor street encounters. Phillip Holder against Benny The Jet Urquidez I cant wait. Hope its a Deathmatch. And maybe we can send Phillip Holder Flowers at his funeral LOL.
Regards Phillip.

JKDFIGHTER · 05-31-2005, 11:35 PM

No way. I call major bullshit. I have a tape of Phillip holder and he 'spars' in it. His "wing chun" sparring is nothing more than piss-poor kickboxing. It's horrible.

EmptyneSs · 06-01-2005, 05:22 PM

actually benny the jet lost when he went to thailand. he fought a thai kickboxer and got beaten badly. however they tried to hide that from people in america. after that defeat, benny never fought in thailandand again, yet claimed to be the best ever with no losses. beny and his american kickboxing couldnt hang with real muay thai kickboxers. after that defeat, benny included elbows, kickwit h the shin, and knees into his kickboxing. before that it was all karate style kickboxing.

check out this page. http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html it has a lot of great info on muay thai, and muay thai vs other arts. it also has the whole story of how benny got beaten in thailand. his corner had to throw in the towl. it has some pictures too. theres also pictures of Don wilson getting beaten by a thai boxer

LatinoHeat · 06-09-2005, 01:35 AM

Thats a Lie Benny fought 4 times against Thai Kickboxers fights were decleared no contest.
LOL .
Here are the video links.
http://www.canadianmuaythai.com/videoclips1.html

http://www.bennythejet.com/

http://www.mikemiles.com/urquidez.html

http://www.fightingmaster.com/legends/benny/

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/sea...988775-8110406

http://www.thekaratevoice.com/articl...s_a_rare_e.htm

http://www.hyekatchdo.com/legends/benny.htm

http://www.tommadsen.net/Profiler/Pr...0the%20jet.htm

http://www.completemartialarts.com/w...yurquidez.aspx

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0882054/bio

Benny even fought a Deathmatch in Hong Kong & won its on one of the links Ive added. So before you criticise Benny Urquidez do your homework.
Benny could have easily deafeted Bruce Lee as well as any JKD Fighter.
At least he retired undefeated.

Yu Law · 06-09-2005, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmptyneSs

actually benny the jet lost when he went to thailand. he fought a thai kickboxer and got beaten badly. however they tried to hide that from people in america. after that defeat, benny never fought in thailandand again, yet claimed to be the best ever with no losses. beny and his american kickboxing couldnt hang with real muay thai kickboxers. after that defeat, benny included elbows, kickwit h the shin, and knees into his kickboxing. before that it was all karate style kickboxing.

check out this page. http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html it has a lot of great info on muay thai, and muay thai vs other arts. it also has the whole story of how benny got beaten in thailand. his corner had to throw in the towl. it has some pictures too. theres also pictures of Don wilson getting beaten by a thai boxer

i was just about to post this. This site is really informative about Muay Thai as well as self defence etc...

And it ISN"T a lie. If anything it is one of the biggest cover ups in martial arts history. Of course he wouldn't include this defeat in his website or any established North American websites b/c Benny the Jet is suppose to be invincible. He is "undefeated" how would it look ifpple knew he lost to a Muay Thai figher?

The bogus thing about it is that the American's that saw the match called it a draw even thguh Benny's corner threw in the towel!
And he onyl incorporated Muay Thai boxing into his arsenal after he got beaten by the Muay Thai figther. This also gets me into the whole American Kickboxing thing which IS a watered down version of Muay Thai kickboxing.

LatinoHeat · 06-09-2005, 02:57 AM

http://www.canadianmuaythai.com/videoclips1.html

BeingAtOne · 06-09-2005, 05:42 AM

From what i saw in those clips Benny Urquidez wont the fight against Narongnoi Kiatbandit but lost to Prayoud Sittiboonlert so i must say though he is very talented I would say if he fought bruce in the ring bruce would loose but on the street bruce is a more complete fighter then benny at the time i think he would have schooled him. But i like these clips alot some very talented fighters.

LatinoHeat · 06-10-2005, 03:21 AM

Both fights were no declared no contest & benny Urquidez wouyld beat Bruce Lee. He has a proven fight record not a Hollywood Script LOL

pstevens · 06-10-2005, 04:49 PM

Benny the jet got his ass handed to him by Rorion Gracie... End of story.

LatinoHeat · 06-16-2005, 01:46 AM

This fight never happend LOL

Maidenfan · 09-04-2005, 12:43 PM

Although I respect Benny as a very talented MA I believe Bruce would have 0wn'd him in a fight, ring or street. Bruce wasn't simply an actor nor just a MA. He was a force of nature! He was also VERY intelligent and it showed in the way he fought.

GonzoStyles · 09-04-2005, 02:32 PM

sorry Benny Lost in against Muay Thai get it right please and stop worshipping him if he was the best why did he never fight in the Kings Cup in Thailand? or take on a Lumpini or RajaDamnern champ?

LatinoHeat · 09-05-2005, 10:46 PM

I totaslly disagree Bruce Lee never fought Benny Urquidez cause he knew he would loose.

Maidenfan · 09-05-2005, 10:58 PM

No, he never fought him because DEAD PEOPLE DON'T FIGHT! Bruce would've admitted it if he really felt that way. He was very honest about these sorts of things. He uses no way as way, thus he can do anything, he can fight however he wants, he could throw a book at him if he wanted, he could win or he could lose. However, in reality, he would've used what would've worked best.... A concept known as the straight blast!

05-21-2005, 05:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
fenwick99 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 184 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Benny The Jet vs. Philip Holder? There has been a rumor going around for some time, the Benny Urquidez lost a challenge match (bare knuckle) to the so-called Grandmaster Dr. Philip Holder of American Wing Chun, or Yee Gi Ying-whatever it is called now. If this is true, it would have some bearing on the BL v. BU issue. These jkdjfgf messageboard really disappoint me, like the whole crapload of crap about Wong Jak. I would rather be trolling pro rassling m-boards-- thier chat about fiction is more real than this crap. sayonnara forever, long like Bruce Lee

05-31-2005, 10:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Phillip Holder would not last a round Phillip Holder Versus Benny Urquidez that I would love to see considering Benny Urquidez has Blackbelts in 20 different Martial Arts Systems and has also studied both Japanese & Muay Thai Kickboxing as well as Grappling under Gokor & Gene Lebell. He has 200 fights no losses. As well as having fought a Death Match in Hong Kong & beaten 4 World Class Muay Thai Kickboxers. Now thats only a small bit of information regarding Benny Urquidez. Lets face it Bruce Lee was a good Instructor & Martial Artist yet he would have been seriously beaten up had he entered the ring against Benny Urquidez who fought in real Kickboxing Competions as opposed to the Movies & a few minor street encounters. Phillip Holder against Benny The Jet Urquidez I cant wait. Hope its a Deathmatch. And maybe we can send Phillip Holder Flowers at his funeral LOL. Regards Phillip.

06-09-2005, 01:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Get your facts correct regarding Benny Urquidez Thats a Lie Benny fought 4 times against Thai Kickboxers fights were decleared no contest. LOL . Here are the video links. http://www.canadianmuaythai.com/videoclips1.html http://www.bennythejet.com/ http://www.mikemiles.com/urquidez.html http://www.fightingmaster.com/legends/benny/ http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/sea...988775-8110406 http://www.thekaratevoice.com/articl...s_a_rare_e.htm http://www.hyekatchdo.com/legends/benny.htm http://www.tommadsen.net/Profiler/Pr...0the%20jet.htm http://www.completemartialarts.com/w...yurquidez.aspx http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0882054/bio Benny even fought a Deathmatch in Hong Kong & won its on one of the links Ive added. So before you criticise Benny Urquidez do your homework. Benny could have easily deafeted Bruce Lee as well as any JKD Fighter. At least he retired undefeated.

06-09-2005, 02:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Look at the Clips LOL Benny Won http://www.canadianmuaythai.com/videoclips1.html

06-10-2005, 03:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Benny won both fights Both fights were no declared no contest & benny Urquidez wouyld beat Bruce Lee. He has a proven fight record not a Hollywood Script LOL

05-31-2005, 11:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
JKDFIGHTER Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 75 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No way. I call major bullshit. I have a tape of Phillip holder and he 'spars' in it. His "wing chun" sparring is nothing more than piss-poor kickboxing. It's horrible.

06-01-2005, 05:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
EmptyneSs Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Posts: 2,120 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	actually benny the jet lost when he went to thailand. he fought a thai kickboxer and got beaten badly. however they tried to hide that from people in america. after that defeat, benny never fought in thailandand again, yet claimed to be the best ever with no losses. beny and his american kickboxing couldnt hang with real muay thai kickboxers. after that defeat, benny included elbows, kickwit h the shin, and knees into his kickboxing. before that it was all karate style kickboxing. check out this page. http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html it has a lot of great info on muay thai, and muay thai vs other arts. it also has the whole story of how benny got beaten in thailand. his corner had to throw in the towl. it has some pictures too. theres also pictures of Don wilson getting beaten by a thai boxer

06-09-2005, 05:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
BeingAtOne Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	From what i saw in those clips Benny Urquidez wont the fight against Narongnoi Kiatbandit but lost to Prayoud Sittiboonlert so i must say though he is very talented I would say if he fought bruce in the ring bruce would loose but on the street bruce is a more complete fighter then benny at the time i think he would have schooled him. But i like these clips alot some very talented fighters.

06-10-2005, 04:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
pstevens Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 333 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Benny the jet got his ass handed to him by Rorion Gracie... End of story.

06-16-2005, 01:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	He never fought Gracie This fight never happend LOL

09-04-2005, 12:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Maidenfan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 58 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Although I respect Benny as a very talented MA I believe Bruce would have 0wn'd him in a fight, ring or street. Bruce wasn't simply an actor nor just a MA. He was a force of nature! He was also VERY intelligent and it showed in the way he fought.

09-04-2005, 02:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
GonzoStyles Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 606 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	sorry Benny Lost in against Muay Thai get it right please and stop worshipping him if he was the best why did he never fight in the Kings Cup in Thailand? or take on a Lumpini or RajaDamnern champ?

09-05-2005, 10:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bruce Lee Beat Benny Urquidez No Way in Hell I totaslly disagree Bruce Lee never fought Benny Urquidez cause he knew he would loose.

09-05-2005, 10:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
Maidenfan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 58 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, he never fought him because DEAD PEOPLE DON'T FIGHT! Bruce would've admitted it if he really felt that way. He was very honest about these sorts of things. He uses no way as way, thus he can do anything, he can fight however he wants, he could throw a book at him if he wanted, he could win or he could lose. However, in reality, he would've used what would've worked best.... A concept known as the straight blast!

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