The Haymaker Punch - Page 2

Tant01 · 07-09-2005, 04:14 PM

You saying I ain't OLD SCHOOL? Why I auddah....

LOL Yeah today it's not PC to thump on folks at a ball game...

Unsportsman like.

**Hardball** · 07-09-2005, 07:30 PM

Buster Douglas vs Iron Mike Tyson definately a haymaker but not a sucker punch. Or was it? Hassim Rachman vs Lennox Lewis 1, definetely a haymaker but not a sucker punch. Now, I forgot who it was, but about two years ago someone was cold cocked after a prize fight. The loser {sore loser} walked over and sucker punched/haymakered the dude after the gloves were removed. He was heavily fined and suspended but a good example of a sucker punch being a haymaker. Someone here has to remember that.

Tant01 · 07-09-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardball

.... The loser {sore loser} walked over and sucker punched/haymakered the dude after the gloves were removed. He was heavily fined and suspended but a good example of a sucker punch being a haymaker. Someone here has to remember that.

Do I remember that? I was on my way home from my last trip to the desert. I took video of the rainstorm we just missed and sat down to watch Friday night fights on the Motel TV (it was Saturday) The loser was embarrased and frustrated the whole fight and lost soundly. After the gloves came off he came over to the winner's corner and just as the hands came out to "congratulate" him..... BOOM!!

Pissed me off! What a loser!

**Hardball** · 07-09-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tant01

Do I remember that? I was on my way home from my last trip to the desert. I took video of the rainstorm we just missed and sat down to watch Friday night fights on the Motel TV (it was Saturday) The loser was embarrased and frustrated the whole fight and lost soundly. After the gloves came off he came over to the winner's corner and just as the hands came out to "congratulate" him..... BOOM!!

Pissed me off! What a loser!

Do you remember their names?

Tant01 · 07-10-2005, 01:43 AM

The Butler did it.

James Butler Vs. Richard Grant

Think he was still pissed off about his 1997 loss to Grant?

"Grudge" match went bad for him?

I think it was more of a short hooking punch than a haymaker but it was a sucker punch and it got the job done. Took a few stitches to fix his toung!

**Hardball** · 07-10-2005, 08:35 AM

Getting hit with taped up hands is probably worse than bare knuckes and definetely worse than a gloved hand.

Garland · 07-12-2005, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardball

Getting hit with taped up hands is probably worse than bare knuckes and definetely worse than a gloved hand.

that's a very interesting perspective.
I think I know where you're going with this...but, I would love it if you would elaborate on this theory of yours a little bit more before I add my $0.02.

**Hardball** · 07-15-2005, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Garland

that's a very interesting perspective.
I think I know where you're going with this...but, I would love it if you would elaborate on this theory of yours a little bit more before I add my $0.02.

Talking about a single punch as in a sucker punch. I've been hit with all three, gloved, bareknuckle and taped. With one punch most gloves won't do major damage, you need a combination. Most modern day, contemporary martial artists don't have conditioned knuckles and end up hurting their own hand; thus getting hit with a taped hand (imho) does more damage to the person on the receiving end of a single punch such as a sucker punch or haymaker.

Garland · 07-16-2005, 10:28 PM

my personal opinion would be that, bareknuckles flay and lacerate, whereas gloves allow a boxer to hit harder without risking damage to his hands...hence the tape allows the fighter to hit harder without risking true injury to himself, as well as still having the hard surfaces of his knuckles open enough to have them cut the opponent.

**Hardball** · 07-17-2005, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Garland

my personal opinion would be that, bareknuckles flay and lacerate, whereas gloves allow a boxer to hit harder without risking damage to his hands...hence the tape allows the fighter to hit harder without risking true injury to himself, as well as still having the hard surfaces of his knuckles open enough to have them cut the opponent.

You ever see old skool martial artist that have conditioned knuckles? The kind that break boards and bricks?

Garland · 07-18-2005, 02:04 AM

conditioned generally means flatened and calloused knuckles...that hurt you later on...and even so, it's not necessarily the "hardness" of the knuckles, but the force of the blow and the physics behind the break.

elementaldrive · 07-28-2005, 01:24 AM

its the drunk red neck in the bar punch man lol

07-09-2005, 04:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,076 Groans: 0 Groaned at 12 Times in 7 Posts	You saying I ain't OLD SCHOOL? Why I auddah.... LOL Yeah today it's not PC to thump on folks at a ball game... Unsportsman like. __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

07-09-2005, 07:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,381 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Buster Douglas vs Iron Mike Tyson definately a haymaker but not a sucker punch. Or was it? Hassim Rachman vs Lennox Lewis 1, definetely a haymaker but not a sucker punch. Now, I forgot who it was, but about two years ago someone was cold cocked after a prize fight. The loser {sore loser} walked over and sucker punched/haymakered the dude after the gloves were removed. He was heavily fined and suspended but a good example of a sucker punch being a haymaker. Someone here has to remember that. __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Mike Brewers 2008 Sit up challenge 48,000/100,000 running balance.(Crunches) Kicks 6,300/100,000

07-10-2005, 01:43 AM	#20 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,076 Groans: 0 Groaned at 12 Times in 7 Posts	The Butler did it. James Butler Vs. Richard Grant Think he was still pissed off about his 1997 loss to Grant? "Grudge" match went bad for him? I think it was more of a short hooking punch than a haymaker but it was a sucker punch and it got the job done. Took a few stitches to fix his toung! __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

07-10-2005, 08:35 AM	#21 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,381 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Getting hit with taped up hands is probably worse than bare knuckes and definetely worse than a gloved hand. __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Mike Brewers 2008 Sit up challenge 48,000/100,000 running balance.(Crunches) Kicks 6,300/100,000

07-16-2005, 10:28 PM	#24 (permalink)
Garland Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,009 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	my personal opinion would be that, bareknuckles flay and lacerate, whereas gloves allow a boxer to hit harder without risking damage to his hands...hence the tape allows the fighter to hit harder without risking true injury to himself, as well as still having the hard surfaces of his knuckles open enough to have them cut the opponent. __________________ homo homini lupus

07-18-2005, 02:04 AM	#26 (permalink)
Garland Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,009 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	conditioned generally means flatened and calloused knuckles...that hurt you later on...and even so, it's not necessarily the "hardness" of the knuckles, but the force of the blow and the physics behind the break. __________________ homo homini lupus

07-28-2005, 01:24 AM	#27 (permalink)
elementaldrive Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: louisiana Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	haymaker its the drunk red neck in the bar punch man lol

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