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Old 02-26-2006, 03:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Alot of you guys think competing is stupid and a waste of time. But in reality, its what sets a normal MArtist from a fighter.

Perhaps.... Competition is a great way to learn to fight? Perhaps competition makes one a "PLAYER"... Perhaps the best FIGHTERS in the world are military squadrons of attack bombers armed with nukes... Perhaps the best "fighters" in the world are in prison for actually killing people...
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SO WHAT if I changed the Mr. Tackett part, it was an editing MISTAKE!!!!! Should I even know who he is?
Perhaps knowing who you are running off at the mouth about, MIGHT be a good idea...Ya think?

http://www.jkdwednite.com/Tim.htm

first you jump in the Cma forums then dont even know what the CMA's ARE or what CMA stands for (somehow i suspect YOU thought it was the country music awards) NOW your'e in the JKD forum and you dont know WHO Tim Tackett is?
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SO WHAT if I changed the Mr. Tackett part, it was an editing MISTAKE!!!!! Should I even know who he is?


Yes.... educated opinions are worth more. (as opposed to worth less)

Don't you think?
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SO WHAT if I changed the Mr. Tackett part, it was an editing MISTAKE!!!!! Should I even know who he is?
Perhaps you should read all the posts you have made on this site. Seems like you must know so much that everybody should be running to you to learn.. Perhaps you should hold your head down and become a little humble or you will just be considerd a troll that offers only words that people laugh at. Just friendly advice.
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Default Difference between 'Sport' and 'Street'

I think it's a grave mistake to believe that the MMA athletes are the ones to follow for what works and what doesnt work in the real world.Even though they are the finest practioners in the 'ring',it is still the 'ring'.Street and Sport are not the same.
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Often folks that are unsure of their abilities or are untested feel a bit insecure. Because of this they can often be seen posturing and puffing themselves up to seem like something they are not...

In some cases it goes the other way, instead of "bragging" about themselves they will try to disparage others that they seem to feel threatened by...
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I wonder how old this mmafighter is. To have no clue of who Tim is, let alone Chinese martial arts, shows sad signs of ignorance-really sad signs.
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Default Im thinking the same thing as a lot of you guys.

Personaly I would never fight In teh ring, Im restricted. I have more options in the street. Im sorry MMA is not full contact. For those who think it is. Most of teh fighters I see in MMA like ufc are scrappy. Theres one preety good guy and then there is soem scrub. And the good guy, supposed, like couture, who keeps charging will get his legs broken in a real fight, if he keeps doing that. Comon he lost to liddel. I've seen some guys who are nice but tehy fight scrubs most of the time. All mma guys got some big ego. Im not intimidated by size, and some other people arent. I got hit harder by some smaller guys then these big guys. Most of teh people run into punches That I see, duh anyone can get knocked down like that. I rarely see any strategy in most of the fights. Muhamed ali had strategy. And most of those guys in MMA fights have psychological problems, those types dont learn, you dont learn by just aimlessly fighting. That does not make you a bad ass. There is some things you can pick up but not alot. Later
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Alot of you guys think competing is stupid and a waste of time. But in reality, its what sets a normal MArtist from a fighter.
I think that's a bad misconception. Competing/MMA/Full contact sparring is very combative and can train great attributes. But its not the whole equation, only a part. To say someone isn't any good, or doesn't have anything valid to offer, because they don't have a fight resume is completely off base. The other thing to keep in mind, is that good fighters don't always make good teachers, and vice versa.
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At 65 I am a little past my prime, but I have worked with some of the UFC type guys. and even spending 1 day teaching one of the famous champions before a title fight. My student in West Palm Beach, Richie Carrion, was last year's NAGA grappling teacher of the year. I do have a lot of respect for anybody with the balls to get in the ring whether it's boxing or the UFC. As for Tommy, he and his guys live in Glasgow and have worked the door at some of the roughtest clubs in the city. Having been to Glasgow I know that any one who has worked the door there has had plenty of real world experience. You can be good without ever having to prove it in the ring or in the street. In fact it's best to never have to use what you have learned. In the street whether you win or lose you may still end up in jail or in court on a civil suit.
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Indeed! Some of us have learned this the hard way...


There is a fine line between victim and ADW...
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I do have a lot of respect for anybody with the balls to get in the ring whether it's boxing or the UFC. As for Tommy, he and his guys live in Glasgow and have worked the door at some of the roughtest clubs in the city. Having been to Glasgow I know that any one who has worked the door there has had plenty of real world experience.
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I see what you are saying but you can get really good without actually fighting there is shadowboxing as well. What is and experience? Is not anything I do an experience. Even shadowboxing or fighting, something I learn from. I have respect for those poeple, and everyone, not arguing with you Tim. I do not see it as anything special or high to go into a ring. I was watching this fight with Liddel and some other guy UFC 54. There was so many thing that Liddel was doing that someone who can see this can take advantage off. Please see this for yourself. L= liddel O=other
Other was getting knocked down several times. O did not even see that he kept moving ito the angle of the cross. Those were the knockouts. He never stayed outside. Liddell is one dimensional but fast He has good movement. And very quick and precise hands. But he keeps dropping his guard. He stands square most of the time. No one ever feinted, a actuall punc but lazily punched slow which had no reality to it what so ever. There wa no bobbin or weaving. No slipping or ducking. Liddel soem times crossed his legs or relaxed his movements and was vulnerable,but no oportunity was taken.
Liddell at one point was moving with him to find an angle and they were walking with eachother for some time. There was absolutely no strategy, but completely two peopel trying to pound eachother to a pulp. No drawing to catch the oponent. Nothing. Liddel even has his face out. He is hard to take down but ofcourse anyone can be a hard opponent if you charge them blindly.
Not even considering what can be done. It was a bunch of exchanging punches. I dont see anything special or great in any of that. Some fighters do have some strategy but it is very limited. also, No body shots no uppercuts were thrown which would be good against liddell. Or an outside hook or inside hook.
Slip to body then upper. Im not a great fighter but this is obvious. Because its predictable and 1 dimensional. Take care Tim
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I do have a lot of respect for anybody with the balls to get in the ring whether it's boxing or the UFC. As for Tommy, he and his guys live in Glasgow and have worked the door at some of the roughtest clubs in the city. Having been to Glasgow I know that any one who has worked the door there has had plenty of real world experience.
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I see what you are saying but you can get really good without actually fighting there is shadowboxing as well. What is and experience? Is not anything I do an experience. Even shadowboxing or fighting, something I learn from. I have respect for those poeple, and everyone, not arguing with you Tim. I do not see it as anything special or high to go into a ring. I was watching this fight with Liddel and some other guy UFC 54. There was so many thing that Liddel was doing that someone who can see this can take advantage off. Please see this for yourself. L= liddel O=other
Other was getting knocked down several times. O did not even see that he kept moving ito the angle of the cross. Those were the knockouts. He never stayed outside. Liddell is one dimensional but fast He has good movement. And very quick and precise hands. But he keeps dropping his guard. He stands square most of the time. No one ever feinted, a actuall punc but lazily punched slow which had no reality to it what so ever. There wa no bobbin or weaving. No slipping or ducking. Liddel soem times crossed his legs or relaxed his movements and was vulnerable,but no oportunity was taken.
Liddell at one point was moving with him to find an angle and they were walking with eachother for some time. There was absolutely no strategy, but completely two peopel trying to pound eachother to a pulp. No drawing to catch the oponent. Nothing. Liddel even has his face out. He is hard to take down but ofcourse anyone can be a hard opponent if you charge them blindly.
Not even considering what can be done. It was a bunch of exchanging punches. I dont see anything special or great in any of that. Some fighters do have some strategy but it is very limited. also, No body shots no uppercuts were thrown which would be good against liddell. Or an outside hook or inside hook.
Slip to body then upper. Im not a great fighter but this is obvious. Because its predictable and 1 dimensional. Take care Tim
When you are the one in the ring doing the fighting It boils down to you do what you do. Looking at a fight yes anybody can find flaws in what could have been done but could have a would have is not in there doing it. Same for on the streets or anywhere. What you do under stress of a resistive person fighting back You do. Not being hit not haveing someone in front of you that is trying to out fight you. You can see many things that can be done different. And never testing those tools in some sort of live training a person really does not know how effective they are aginst a unwilling opponent. Yes training methods can make you better. BUT you need to test those methods some how to see how well they work .
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