Close minded

[Eyegouge]

A couple weeks ago I started dating a girl. Her father teaches a martial art combination of TKD and FMA. He was exited about meeting me and showing me his dojo.

The first day I go over there he shows me his dojo. He's gotta pretty sweet setup and he starts parading around the mats swinging his kali sticks and showing me some cool stick fighting stuff.

He asks me what martial arts I'm into. I tell him I'm a grappler with a kempo background. Immediatly he wants to spar with me.

I laugh and say I will but I know I'm not going to stand up and trade kicks and punches, I'm going to take it to the ground. My friends laugh and so does he and he says he dosen't care I can do whatever I think I can.

I'm worried beacuse this dude is in shape but he's like 49 years old. But I want to test my skills so we go at it.

He thows a few kicks and I backpeddel. He's throwing with power and we have no protective gear whatsoever. I decide it needs to go down...now...or he's gunna kick me hard. So I slip in real fast and get behind him and take him backwards over my leg. We hit the ground and he palm strikes me in the chin, I take that arm and armbar him. He rolls out and slips into my gaurd. We roll around for a bit and then he says he's tired and goes inside.

I talked to my girlfriend about the whole thing and she says her dad is mad at me. She says he thinks I took the whole thing to seriously and I hurt his foot somehow. And that he says I'm not a martial artist, I'm a street fighter. I tried to explian that I've delved into the philosphies of JKD and have found that for me, grappling is what I do best and that it's a martial art, it's just differnt from TKD. That I take whatever techniques that work for me from all the martial arts I encounter and mold them into my own personal art.

She tells me again that I'm not a martial artist and that I'm not a good fighter. She tells me I'm mean and I spar dirty.

Flabergasted I respond with, if I'm not a good martial artist, how did I beat your dad whos been doing this for 20 some years. She says I "cheated". I laugh and say that taking it to the ground is not cheating, it's just another aspect of physical combat. I ask her, "If you think your dad is such a great martial artist why dosen't he do any ground fighting." She says, "He dosen't need to learn it." "Why?" "Because TKD is all anyone needs to defend themselves" I laugh "How come I took your dad down then?"

"Because you cheated"

We've been debating this for weeks now. I need someway to convince her that 1. groundfighting is NOT cheating. and 2. Learning all the aspects of combat, mental and physical is the only way to truly become a complete martial artist.

Any thoughts about this event or advice for me? She won't let this go so I can't just not talk about it, I need to resolve it.

[jubaji]

If that very suspiciously theatrical story is true, you need to ditch that broad and move on.

[Eyegouge]

but shes got huge tits and she's great in bed. It's true man. I wouldn't spend the time to make up a crazy ass story like mine. I've got too many guitars to build.

oh and jubaji, it's good ta be back at defend and know you'll always be here to give me sound advice....

[blitz]

Yeah no offence but to be honest, that girl is quite dumb
How about you ask her why its cheating?
Try to get an insightful answer from her and if she can't answer I think you've proven your point without much work.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by Eyegouge

but shes got huge tits and she's great in bed. It's true man. I wouldn't spend the time to make up a crazy ass story like mine. I've got too many guitars to build.

Its only natural that you can't think straight with your head buried in them big ol' titties, but there are loads of girls who fit the same description who won't require you to beat up their father and then apologize for it for the rest of your life.

Get 10 - 20 more sessions in and then bail.

[Eyegouge]

LMFAO....aight, thanks jubaji. I'd keep that in mind.

[Tom Yum]

Originally Posted by jubaji

Get 10 - 20 more sessions in and then bail.

Stick and move.....stick and move.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by Eyegouge

oh and jubaji, it's good ta be back at defend and know you'll always be here to give me sound advice....

You keep bringing up babes with giant hooters and I'll keep paying attention!

[Eyegouge]

hahahah you guys make me laugh so freakin much,
seriously though, you guys got any bruce quotes or whatever i can use to change this babe and her dad's minds? They're so freaking close minded. Should I sit them down and make them watch UFC's 1-5 and then Enter the dragon? What can I do. I really like this chick and her dad but this whole thing is pissing me off.

[Tom Yum]

Originally Posted by Eyegouge

What can I do. I really like this chick and her dad but this whole thing is pissing me off.

Yeah bring over some takeout Chinese food, a Bruce Lee film and UFC 2 and explain that you study a style whose techniques involve wrestling, like the dude who wears the Kimono...

Let him put two and two together and you can spend the late night hours talking to her dad about MA.

[blitz]

Well I'm trying to look through the Tao of Jeet Kune Do to find something.
I guess this COULD work...
The martial arts are based upon understanding, hard work and a total comprehension of skills. Power Training and the use of force are easy, but total comprehension of all of the skills of the martial arts is very difficult to achieve. To understand you must study all the natural movement in all living things. Naturally, you can understand the martial arts of others. You can study the timing and the weaknesses. Just knowning these two elements will give you the capacity to knock him down rather easily.

And this:
By an error repeated throughout the ages, truth, becoming a law or a faith, places obstacles in the way of knowledge. Method, which is in its very substance ignorance, encloses truth within a vicious circle. We should break such a circle, not by seeking knowledge, but by discovering the cause of ignorance.

Hope this helps, sorry I couldn't find anything that talked exactly about learning whatever you needed or about grappling =o.
And I added the second quote because she said "Because TKD is all anyone needs to defend themselves".

[blitz]

Yeah I guess the UFC 1-2-3-4 idea would be good too. :O

[Eyegouge]

Ha ight well I need to head to Family video or sumthin then and get some time schedualed out with the two of them

tight quotes, I'll have to give them my copy of Tao of JKD and force them to read it.

[Thai Bri]

Originally Posted by Eyegouge

but shes got huge tits and she's great in bed.

Just let the fucker win then? You may get her to swallow!

[Eyegouge]

lol she already does....

and wouldn't letting her win like.....crumble the fabric of our martial universe?