abd

[bjjp]

in jkd you have something i headr that was abd my sifu brong it up cause he studyed in it for 2 years but i dont get it and he didnt have time to explain itso can ya help me out.

[Adept]

ABD = Attack By Drawing.

It is a Jeet Kune Do concept of fighting. They actually use this in boxing as well. It's when you leave yourself open somewhere, letting the opponent think he can hit you there, and counter him as he attacks it.

For example, bringing your hands down to your hips would most likely make your opponent think he can jab/cross you, and then you counter by slipping the punch and launching a kick to his stomach.

[white devil]

parrying is often used too to counter

[gungfuhero]

There are three ways to use ABD: exposure, feinting or forcing. Exposure is where you make your self vulnerable and then counter. This could be opening yourself or simply anticipating what a predictable fighter is going to throw. Feinting is used to provoke a stop hit or counter blow. When I was boxing, one of my favorites was to fake the jab/straight lead so that my opponent would throw his lead left hook (since I fought strong side forward southpaw, this was a regular occurence on my end.) When they threw the left hook, I would bob&weave into a right hook. Forcing is different. The way I teach it is that your attack compels the opponent to try and counter, and then you counter that. Erik Paulson teaches something similar called a Jedi Mind Trick where he throws something in order to draw that same tool, although I think he uses that term for other situations where he can do something that allows him to anticipate his opponent's next move as well. For example, if I hit you with a good hard leg kick, you may feel that you're not going to let me get the last word and that by god you'll show me what a good leg kick is. This is great for me, because when you when your insecurity of who's the better leg kicker sets in, and you try to prove your point, I counter it. In other words, ABD by forcing involves attacking your opponent in such a way that compels him to try to counter you, which you in turn counter.

Mike,

I understand you are in the process of investigating boxing in a really intense way. I too took the plunge a few years ago. What's your impression, as a JKD man, getting into the ring?

[jubaji]

Would I be intruding to mention that this same principle is widely employed in wrestling?

[treelizard]

Originally Posted by jubaji

Would I be intruding to mention that this same principle is widely employed in wrestling?

Do tell!!!

[treelizard]

Originally Posted by Adept

ABD = Attack By Drawing.

It is a Jeet Kune Do concept of fighting. They actually use this in boxing as well. It's when you leave yourself open somewhere, letting the opponent think he can hit you there, and counter him as he attacks it.

For example, bringing your hands down to your hips would most likely make your opponent think he can jab/cross you, and then you counter by slipping the punch and launching a kick to his stomach.

I thought that was called a "false lead"--same thing or no?

[jubaji]

One of the positions in which I am most comfortable is in defending a leg shot. If you have a strong defense, and are comfortable/confident in the dog fight that follows a shot even partially defended, then what follows can open up a world of opportunities. Accordingly, since at least the college days I have often taken a stance that makes it seem that I am completely open to a leg shot. The idea is to invite the shot that you are prepared to defend and counter. Sometimes, and this raises another aspect of this principle, it is so obvious what you are trying to do that it becomes an outright challenge that both people are overtly aware of.

Setting up throws can involve many of the same principles.

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by gungfuhero

There are three ways to use ABD: exposure, feinting or forcing. ......

...?

No limitations...

"ABD" was also Boyd's specialty but he was a combat pilot...

Feeding the enemy false information to draw the desired response can be applied in almost any situation.

In some silat styles there is a tactic called weak counterpart position. It might be a feint of sorts but you are feeding the ego of the adversary.

"Oh, please don't hurt poor little me, I'm lame and weak..."

Right before you unleash the beast.

[treelizard]

Originally Posted by Tant01

No limitations...

"ABD" was also Boyd's specialty but he was a combat pilot...

Feeding the enemy false information to draw the desired response can be applied in almost any situation.

In some silat styles there is a tactic called weak counterpart position. It might be a feint of sorts but you are feeding the ego of the adversary.

"Oh, please don't hurt poor little me, I'm lame and weak..."

Right before you unleash the beast.

There's a really cool woman's kata in karate of all things (still trying to trace it's origin) that works on this exact same tactic. It's actually the coolest kata I've ever learned, where the moves are designed to make you look small and innocent while you move forward and beat the crap out of the BG, and then retreat and look tiny and apologetic. It's really hard for guys to do though, I remember the instructor who taught us was sweating and the women he was teaching were all flowing through it with ease... Also some of the moves work better with a kimono, or a skirt anyway, where you have to walk all funny anyway.

[Tim McFatridge]

Good explanation Mr. Brewer...Tree Lizard a false lead (in my FMA training and JKD training anyway) is when you are in a left lead with your right shoulder foward...or vice versa. Also Adept...just so you know in JKD there are actually 5 ways of attacking your opponent. 1) SDA - Single Direct Attack, 2) PIA - Progressive Indirect Attack, 3) HIA - Hand Immobilization Attack, 4)ABC- Attack By Combination 5)ABD- Attack By Drawing.
You will see ABC, ABD and PIA in boxing all the time...examples...
1. SDA = Jab
2. PIA = act like you are going to throw a round kick then turn into a front kick or act like you are throwing a low kick then take it high.
3. HIA = jab he parries, go into a trap
4. ABC = jab,cross, hook, uppercut
5. ABD= look at examples from previous post.
I hope this helps

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