The Ultimate in Martial Arts

ASHTANGA05 · 08-30-2006, 06:48 PM

Crusader,

Actually Tommy Carruthers certificate from Gary Dill was a 'Basic' one, given for the sole purpose of having an affiliate in the UK/Europe. It clearly says the word 'Basic' on the certificate i.e. rudimentary knowledge. You know who Gary Dill is I assume, as renowned & authoritive on JKD as Jerry Beasley! If you look into both , you can judge for yourself how 'renowned' that is.

He chose Gary Dill, as he didn't want to wait a decade or more to become a Full Instructor under Dan Inosanto.

So he may or may not be cerified by Ted Wong, according to Ted's site (see above) - he is not an Instructor under him. Even if he was certified by Ted Wong, ask Tommy exactly how many hours he trained with Ted before getting the certification (as Tommy is in UK, & Ted in U.S. ; Tommy has been over there a few times, and brought Ted over a few times, thats about it)?

He is not certified by anyone else, that much is definite.

So his certification includes - Gary Dill ('Basic' , long expired, & Gary Dill speaks very poorly of him), Seminar Certificates from - Dan Inosanto/Paul Vunak/Larry Hartsell (for around 10 hours at the most for a 2 day seminar, he only attended a few), and of course all they indicate are participation in a seminar, and clearly state 'this does not authorise you to teach' on them.

Wow, thats very thorough, he seems very credible indeed (ha ha!).

Crusader very strange too you stay totally silent on Rick Young challenging him??? This can easliy be verified , and did happen.

ASHTANGA05 · 08-30-2006, 06:55 PM

Anyone is free to contact Gary Dill direct :-

http://www.jkd-garydill.com

Just go to 'Contact' there you can email or phone him, etc.

And post his answers right here.

Ask him what type of certificate he gave Tommy Carruthers & the significance of it?
Ask him too on how he regards Tommy Carruthers skill level?

jubaji · 08-30-2006, 06:56 PM

Take your gossip-bullshit on the road, punk.

ASHTANGA05 · 08-30-2006, 07:03 PM

We really need Jubaji's inspired, thought provoking, constructive, deeply philosophical & relevant to the discussion on hand - type of posts here, yes sure we do.

Look at those inspiring words above from him or try here also :-

http://defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?t=21514

Whilst forums members here may be forgiven for confusing Jubaji's words with Shakespeare's Sonnets, I can assure you that Jubaji actually wrote them all himself.

**Thai Bri** · 08-30-2006, 07:05 PM

But who cares? Cerainly not I.

ASHTANGA05 · 08-30-2006, 07:10 PM

Thai Brai,

Very true! But try telling it to Ncgf he started this thread for no apparent reason, other than he got exposed as a fraudster and his ego can't take criticism.

ASHTANGA05 · 08-30-2006, 07:14 PM

Very strange too that the 'Expert' Ncgf had never even heard of Gary Dill or Emin Boztepe, yet he has heard of people like Lamar Davis??? Guess , reading martial arts magazines or being aware of what is going on in the martial arts world , or actually reading on this forum as opposed to just posting messages, is not his forte as they say.

jkdgymrat · 08-30-2006, 07:35 PM

man, i must be going crazy dudes. ashtanga05 i dont see where ncgf started this thread. am i mising something here? it looks like you started this thread. i dont even see ncgf posted here. were they deleted or something?

Perry

jubaji · 08-30-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASHTANGA05

We really need Jubaji's inspired, thought provoking, constructive, deeply philosophical & relevant to the discussion on hand - type of posts here, yes sure we do.

Look at those inspiring words above from him or try here also :-

http://defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?t=21514

Whilst forums members here may be forgiven for confusing Jubaji's words with Shakespeare's Sonnets, I can assure you that Jubaji actually wrote them all himself.

LOL

You trying to pose as some kind of intellectual is a new level of pathetic.

You've run out of material, kid. Take your old-lady gossip-bullshit elsewhere.

ASHTANGA05 · 08-30-2006, 08:15 PM

'Take Your Old Lady Gossip Bullshit Elsewhere' (from Jubaji's post above), now I could swear that's from Shakespeare's 'Macbeth' but I'm not reading all of it again just to confirm that, anyone else sure it is from there?

jubaji · 08-30-2006, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsSBanditTANGA05

'Take Your Old Lady Gossip Bullshit Elsewhere', now I could swear that's from Shakespeare's 'Macbeth'

I'm sure that as far as you know, it is!

jkdgymrat · 08-30-2006, 10:10 PM

Ashatanga05

I still dont see where or how ncgf started this thread like you said in the above post.

crusader · 08-31-2006, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASHTANGA05

Crusader very strange too you stay totally silent on Rick Young challenging him??? This can easliy be verified , and did happen.

I don't care?

ASHTANGA05 · 08-31-2006, 01:10 PM

Note the 'Crusader ' response , very typical of CG's as they are known 'Carruthers Groupies' , that actually believe what he says & follow him.

ASHTANGA05 · 08-31-2006, 01:13 PM

Crusader,

The great Tommy when confronted crapped himself , surprising as he trains solely for the street. Even Tim Tackett in this thread - said he has bigmouth & pisses people off with hat he says. Others have got tired of Tommy's bigmouth as well not just Rick Young, the fact you support someone like that is rather sad.

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08-30-2006, 06:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Crusader, Actually Tommy Carruthers certificate from Gary Dill was a 'Basic' one, given for the sole purpose of having an affiliate in the UK/Europe. It clearly says the word 'Basic' on the certificate i.e. rudimentary knowledge. You know who Gary Dill is I assume, as renowned & authoritive on JKD as Jerry Beasley! If you look into both , you can judge for yourself how 'renowned' that is. He chose Gary Dill, as he didn't want to wait a decade or more to become a Full Instructor under Dan Inosanto. So he may or may not be cerified by Ted Wong, according to Ted's site (see above) - he is not an Instructor under him. Even if he was certified by Ted Wong, ask Tommy exactly how many hours he trained with Ted before getting the certification (as Tommy is in UK, & Ted in U.S. ; Tommy has been over there a few times, and brought Ted over a few times, thats about it)? He is not certified by anyone else, that much is definite. So his certification includes - Gary Dill ('Basic' , long expired, & Gary Dill speaks very poorly of him), Seminar Certificates from - Dan Inosanto/Paul Vunak/Larry Hartsell (for around 10 hours at the most for a 2 day seminar, he only attended a few), and of course all they indicate are participation in a seminar, and clearly state 'this does not authorise you to teach' on them. Wow, thats very thorough, he seems very credible indeed (ha ha!). Crusader very strange too you stay totally silent on Rick Young challenging him??? This can easliy be verified , and did happen.

08-30-2006, 06:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anyone is free to contact Gary Dill direct :- http://www.jkd-garydill.com Just go to 'Contact' there you can email or phone him, etc. And post his answers right here. Ask him what type of certificate he gave Tommy Carruthers & the significance of it? Ask him too on how he regards Tommy Carruthers skill level?

08-30-2006, 07:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	We really need Jubaji's inspired, thought provoking, constructive, deeply philosophical & relevant to the discussion on hand - type of posts here, yes sure we do. Look at those inspiring words above from him or try here also :- http://defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?t=21514 Whilst forums members here may be forgiven for confusing Jubaji's words with Shakespeare's Sonnets, I can assure you that Jubaji actually wrote them all himself.

08-30-2006, 07:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	But who cares? Cerainly not I.

08-30-2006, 07:10 PM	#21 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thai Brai, Very true! But try telling it to Ncgf he started this thread for no apparent reason, other than he got exposed as a fraudster and his ego can't take criticism.

08-30-2006, 07:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very strange too that the 'Expert' Ncgf had never even heard of Gary Dill or Emin Boztepe, yet he has heard of people like Lamar Davis??? Guess , reading martial arts magazines or being aware of what is going on in the martial arts world , or actually reading on this forum as opposed to just posting messages, is not his forte as they say.

08-30-2006, 07:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
jkdgymrat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: left coast Posts: 7 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	man, i must be going crazy dudes. ashtanga05 i dont see where ncgf started this thread. am i mising something here? it looks like you started this thread. i dont even see ncgf posted here. were they deleted or something? Perry

08-30-2006, 08:15 PM	#25 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	'Take Your Old Lady Gossip Bullshit Elsewhere' (from Jubaji's post above), now I could swear that's from Shakespeare's 'Macbeth' but I'm not reading all of it again just to confirm that, anyone else sure it is from there?

08-30-2006, 10:10 PM	#27 (permalink)
jkdgymrat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: left coast Posts: 7 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ashatanga05 I still dont see where or how ncgf started this thread like you said in the above post.

08-31-2006, 01:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Note the 'Crusader ' response , very typical of CG's as they are known 'Carruthers Groupies' , that actually believe what he says & follow him.

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08-31-2006, 01:13 PM	#30 (permalink)
ASHTANGA05 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Crusader, The great Tommy when confronted crapped himself , surprising as he trains solely for the street. Even Tim Tackett in this thread - said he has bigmouth & pisses people off with hat he says. Others have got tired of Tommy's bigmouth as well not just Rick Young, the fact you support someone like that is rather sad.