text book training

rage · 02-14-2001, 01:14 AM

I just wanted to ask u guys about text book training.

In the past i have been doing tae kwan do and wushu but i have stopped for a long time and since then i have been reading training material and pratising by myself.

Well the question is do u think its possible to learn the technquies and methods mentaly? i mean i havent tried it to see if it works but i have it all in my head.

guess i kinda answered the question myself..anyway just wanted to get your views on this matter. ^^

jester700 · 02-14-2001, 12:40 PM

LEARNING this way is not a good idea. Too many opportunities to learn things incorrectly and have to undo later, or even possibly cause damage.

Mental training is good REINFORCEMENT, though. After a class, visualize the stuff - it seems to sink in faster & deeper. Then test it out in class again. Some studies have shown that the neural patterns used in that movement/technique are better established by doing this.

But the lack of ability to double check learning either in real time or with a good instructor isn't a good idea.

rage · 02-14-2001, 04:19 PM

Okay thanks for your advice, guess i'll just go back to trainig then.

What do u guys think of grandmaster Victor Khan? he is known as the "untouchable of chi sao" and was also one of grandmaster Yip Mans top student.

rage · 02-14-2001, 04:26 PM

Jester u seem very experienced...once again i thank your for your advice and i will remember what u have written.

Thanks mate ^^

jester700 · 02-14-2001, 05:30 PM

...not THAT experienced. Just trying to help. Good luck, mate!

Evilution · 02-15-2001, 01:55 PM

Books and videos are great learning tools but they MUST be reinforced by actual hands on training. Bruce always said, knowing is not enough, we must apply. I think that's a good point. So I'd recommend studying up, but do some actual training too so you can actually learn to translate the stuff in your head to your hands.

Pancrase · 02-22-2001, 01:15 PM

If you wanted to learn to play basketball and you read a book on how to shoot a jump-shot do you think you would be any good at it?
If you wanted to be a good hitter in baseball and read a book by Ted Williams on the proper swing, do you think you would be any good at it?
etc., etc.

rage · 02-22-2001, 06:42 PM

Well..the books must have some effect rite? as many grandmasters such as Bruce Lee, Jhoon Rhee and even grandmaster Yip Mans son have written books which form a guide for many martial artist.

So even though we duno how to execute the moves to its full potential at least there is a guide to helps us. Having said that, of course its always better to have a sifu to teach us fisrt hand.

02-15-2001, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Evilution Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Corvallis Oregon Posts: 216	Books and videos are great learning tools but they MUST be reinforced by actual hands on training. Bruce always said, knowing is not enough, we must apply. I think that's a good point. So I'd recommend studying up, but do some actual training too so you can actually learn to translate the stuff in your head to your hands. __________________ UNITED WE STAND

02-22-2001, 01:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pancrase Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 42	If you wanted to learn to play basketball and you read a book on how to shoot a jump-shot do you think you would be any good at it? If you wanted to be a good hitter in baseball and read a book by Ted Williams on the proper swing, do you think you would be any good at it? etc., etc. __________________ Scott

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02-14-2001, 01:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
rage Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 6	I just wanted to ask u guys about text book training. In the past i have been doing tae kwan do and wushu but i have stopped for a long time and since then i have been reading training material and pratising by myself. Well the question is do u think its possible to learn the technquies and methods mentaly? i mean i havent tried it to see if it works but i have it all in my head. guess i kinda answered the question myself..anyway just wanted to get your views on this matter. ^^

02-14-2001, 12:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
jester700 Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 27	LEARNING this way is not a good idea. Too many opportunities to learn things incorrectly and have to undo later, or even possibly cause damage. Mental training is good REINFORCEMENT, though. After a class, visualize the stuff - it seems to sink in faster & deeper. Then test it out in class again. Some studies have shown that the neural patterns used in that movement/technique are better established by doing this. But the lack of ability to double check learning either in real time or with a good instructor isn't a good idea.

02-14-2001, 04:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
rage Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 6	Okay thanks for your advice, guess i'll just go back to trainig then. What do u guys think of grandmaster Victor Khan? he is known as the "untouchable of chi sao" and was also one of grandmaster Yip Mans top student.

02-14-2001, 04:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
rage Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 6	Jester u seem very experienced...once again i thank your for your advice and i will remember what u have written. Thanks mate ^^

02-14-2001, 05:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
jester700 Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 27	...not THAT experienced. Just trying to help. Good luck, mate!

02-22-2001, 06:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
rage Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 6	Well..the books must have some effect rite? as many grandmasters such as Bruce Lee, Jhoon Rhee and even grandmaster Yip Mans son have written books which form a guide for many martial artist. So even though we duno how to execute the moves to its full potential at least there is a guide to helps us. Having said that, of course its always better to have a sifu to teach us fisrt hand.

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