Is it possible? to practice knife fighting by yourself

[Ryan G]

is it?

i've learned the six stab/thrust angles on the body from jkd before, nothing much besides. no schools i can find here that teach knife fighting, unless i join the army or something... so any help would be appreciated.

thanks in advance!

[Jiu-fu fighter]

To some extent, yes,

I also have the same issues too, I really want to learn some knife skills, but all I have is theory, not really good training or practice

good luck , bro

[heyyou316us]

Originally Posted by Jiu-fu fighter

To some extent, yes,

I also have the same issues too, I really want to learn some knife skills, but all I have is theory, not really good training or practice

good luck , bro

Why bother..are you ever going to use it....

[jubaji]

Eh, take a stab at it. What have you got to lose?

[DickHardman]

knife fighting is a misconception. if a guy is gonna use a knife on you, he will try to take you by surprise and not allow you any chance of pulling your own weapon. the "duel" scenario you are thinking of is pretty rare. just doesnt really work out like that. you may be able to get your own weapon or get to a weapon after you have been attacked, but this is a different scenario than "knife fighting".

[Ryan G]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

knife fighting is a misconception. if a guy is gonna use a knife on you, he will try to take you by surprise and not allow you any chance of pulling your own weapon. the "duel" scenario you are thinking of is pretty rare. just doesnt really work out like that. you may be able to get your own weapon or get to a weapon after you have been attacked, but this is a different scenario than "knife fighting".

with all due respect, what you said makes perfect sense.
but what you guys are saying is forget knife training all together, attack the SOB before they even draws the knife is only chance of countering a knife attack?

[Ryan G]

Originally Posted by Jiu-fu fighter

To some extent, yes,

I also have the same issues too, I really want to learn some knife skills, but all I have is theory, not really good training or practice

good luck , bro

same here dude.
thanks for replying everyone.

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by Ryan G

with all due respect, what you said makes perfect sense.
but what you guys are saying is forget knife training all together, attack the SOB before they even draws the knife is only chance of countering a knife attack?

If you are FORCED into a situation like this it would be good to know some evasive footwork and positioning skills. You can fairly evade many angles if there is enough room to maneuver. This is not always the case. It is important to understand the concept of "passing" the blade. There is almost always a WAY to defend against the attacks of an unskilled knifer. As DH points out the most common type of attack with a knife (shank) is ambush.

Not to overlook the obvious but IMPROVISED weapons are everywhere. Also a shield or barrier of any kind can save your life.

[eXcessiveForce]

Define Knife fighting, are you talking

offensive use of a knife, Then yes, you can practice blade work to some extent.

Defense against a knife. then yes, you can work on foot work, evasion, etc to some extent.


Knife on knife, this is a bit harder, since you kind of need someone to simulate an attack.


You have to be specific about your outcome

[Hardball]

Most thugs on the street don't have any strategy. They either stab you or they slash you.................then they finish you off with about 100 thrusts to your torso.

[aseepish]

This guy seems to be teaching out of Melbourne http://www.jkdacademy.com.au/

A Kali/Eskrima club at Monash Univeristy, Clayton campus
http://www.melbournearnis.com/contact.shtml

This club offers a JKD/Kali class (if you're over eighteen years of age)
http://www.melbournehapkido.com.au/timetable.html

Doce Pares Eskrima - it's in Reservoir, Vic (I'm not sure how far that is from Melboune, but they might be able to direct you to a Filipino Martial Arts club in the city) http://www.doceparesaust.com/html/contact.html

[doubleouch]

You can learn knife fighting solo as well as you can learn any combative art solo. Imagine yourself working boxing skills without a partner. You could do bag work all day, footwork drills, conditioning exercises etc. All that would be good. You would never be able to learn timing and distance though. The first time you got in the ring with someone who actually has had sparring experience you would get your ass kicked bad. The solo exercises may make it easier to learn the partner work later though. If all you have is solo work and no possibility to train with a partner then it makes no sense to try to learn knife. It would be like learning to drive without a car and not expecting to ever have one.

[Ryan G]

Originally Posted by eXcessiveForce

Define Knife fighting, are you talking

offensive use of a knife, Then yes, you can practice blade work to some extent.

Defense against a knife. then yes, you can work on foot work, evasion, etc to some extent.


Knife on knife, this is a bit harder, since you kind of need someone to simulate an attack.


You have to be specific about your outcome

actually i was referring to all 3 of above.

thanks again for helping me out. ive been working on my karenza in the morning.

[Ryan G]

Originally Posted by aseepish

This guy seems to be teaching out of Melbourne http://www.jkdacademy.com.au/

A Kali/Eskrima club at Monash Univeristy, Clayton campus
http://www.melbournearnis.com/contact.shtml

This club offers a JKD/Kali class (if you're over eighteen years of age)
http://www.melbournehapkido.com.au/timetable.html

Doce Pares Eskrima - it's in Reservoir, Vic (I'm not sure how far that is from Melboune, but they might be able to direct you to a Filipino Martial Arts club in the city) http://www.doceparesaust.com/html/contact.html

Thanks a lot bud, looking at the JKDA's website right now, very interested in their R.A.T (rapid assualt training made by paul vunak) has any of you been trained R.A.T. before? if so how was it, any knife training?

thanks again

Ryan

[aseepish]

I trained RAT (as part of a larger JKD program) under Weldon Cheung and Daryl Piper, who were under Trevor Clarkson [Creative Fighters' Guild], who was under Paul Vunak [Progressive Fighting Systems]. We did do knife work, more as attribute development than a separate line of training. It is good stuff. I would say that in my 14 years or so of martial arts experience that Vu's stuff is what I would fall back on. We're talking 1997-2000, I'm sure the program has evolved since then.

I see that Coach Robert has also trained under Roy Harris who is a phenomenal BJJ/grappling instructor.

Incidentally, if you are ever intrested in Brazilian Jiujitisu, check out Pete DeBeen's club (Gracie Barra) in St. Kilda. I had the pleasure to train with him for a fortnight when I was in Melbourne last (Fall 2005). http://www.peterdebeen.com/gracie-jiu-jitsu.html