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Old 06-24-2007, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have the Thomas Cleary translation, is there a better one? Preferably one that isn't stylized, like "for business"
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this book sounds too much like "Confucious say..."
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I'll have to figure out what my version is. It is a fantastic book.
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Get the version by Miaymoto Musashi. It's yellowish with a drawing of a ancient samauri on the front cover.
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I think of the various versions I have read the one by Stephen Kaufman has the best translation for martial artist, especially those that would draw a parallel to JKD. There was a translation that came out in 1982 by Nihon Services Corp/Bantam Books that was also exellent. Here's some quotes from the later translation:
"There is no result in Zen practice. That is not the point.It is the effort you make to improve yourself that is measured." Sound like a Japanese version of Bruce Lee? Musashi wrote the book in 1645. Here's more...

"It is to apprehend the situation clearly and to see it for what it is, and not what you think it is. The intuitive experience is quick and without hesitation."
" Heiho literally means the path to enlightenment. It is not enlightenment itself. While enlightenment or fullfillment or success is accomplishing your objectives may be the goal, Heiho is merely the way to get there-Musashi's way to get there."
Is Heiho and jeet kune do not the same? A lot of people buy "A Book of Five Rings". Few read it. Fewer still understand it. Who can apply it?

Like studying jeet kune do, you have to get several versions, then draw your own conclusions. Happy reading.
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I think of the various versions I have read the one by Stephen Kaufman has the best translation for martial artist, especially those that would draw a parallel to JKD. There was a translation that came out in 1982 by Nihon Services Corp/Bantam Books that was also exellent. Here's some quotes from the later translation:
"There is no result in Zen practice. That is not the point.It is the effort you make to improve yourself that is measured." Sound like a Japanese version of Bruce Lee? Musashi wrote the book in 1645. Here's more...

"It is to apprehend the situation clearly and to see it for what it is, and not what you think it is. The intuitive experience is quick and without hesitation."
" Heiho literally means the path to enlightenment. It is not enlightenment itself. While enlightenment or fullfillment or success is accomplishing your objectives may be the goal, Heiho is merely the way to get there-Musashi's way to get there."
Is Heiho and jeet kune do not the same? A lot of people buy "A Book of Five Rings". Few read it. Fewer still understand it. Who can apply it?

Like studying jeet kune do, you have to get several versions, then draw your own conclusions. Happy reading.
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Thanks for your remarks. I didn't read it, I devoured it. I read it over 20 times over a 5 year period. It's easy reading and can be read in a couple of hours. I used it as a study guide finding more knowledge with every reading.
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Yeah, I love mine! It's just I heard someone say that Tomas Cleary's translation is crap, so I was wondering if there was a version that was generally recomended. So far I'v got Stephen Kaufman and Nihon Services Corp/Bantam Books for suggestions. You said you recomended Kaufman aikia?
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I have the Overlook Press/ Victor Harris version.
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Get the version by Miaymoto Musashi. It's yellowish with a drawing of a ancient samauri on the front cover.

This in my opinion is the best "A Book of Five Rings", which from my research and training, where Bruce Lee was also heavenly influenced by...



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I don't know if this is the one that you all are referring to, but I have found this translation to be excellent


http://www.amazon.com/Book-Five-Ring...2876457&sr=8-2
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I've got that version too it a great book to read over and over just like tao of jkd you get somethign new from it every time. Also I always read it before a fight to clear my head and think about the meaning of strategy in fighting.
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