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Old 07-22-2007, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've taken a few Martial Arts. I'm planning on taking more, so that I can have ability on all fighting ranges.
I don't have any JKD instructors in my area.
I know some information about Jeet Kune Do. I know it's a concept that has techniques, but I was wondering:
I've taken mostly Korean arts. I'm in Tae Kwon Do, but I'm about to practice a hybrid art called Kyukido (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyuki_Do). I realize that no art is better than another, but do you think certain arts work better or worse when one attempts to combine them with Jeet Kune Do concepts? I tend to mention what I would like to do as "XYZ Arts: Wrapped in Jeet Kune Do."

As for the book:
I researched it very vaguely, and I'm still considering buying it (As well as the Tao of Jeet Kune Do). I'm sure there are various bodyweight exercises in it, but is there certain equipment I should buy that it talks about training with? I remember hearing something vaguely about a bow or something.

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You have to be careful eating kyukido because it has raw eggs in it.

You could adapt classical art X to JKD, but then you wouldn't be doing classical art X anymore. JKD is not about combining arts. Yes there are some arts that are more in line with JKD principles than others but that doesn't mean that they don't have aspects that are out of line with those same principles. Foil Fencing mirrors JKD. But will taking Foil Fencing make you a better fighter?

The bottom line is that it's not so much what (techniques) you train, but how you train them.

Check out this thread. http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...ad.php?t=24629

As for The Art of Expressing the Human Body, I don't have my copy at my current residence, and it's been ages since I've read through it. I do recall a lot of it being about isometric drills (applying force to an immovable object, real or imaginary). Keep in mind that the book is based on 1970s era information. It's great for a snapshot of how Bruce Lee trained, but may not be the best way for you.

Good luck and enjoy your training!
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You have to be careful eating kyukido because it has raw eggs in it.

You could adapt classical art X to JKD, but then you wouldn't be doing classical art X anymore. JKD is not about combining arts. Yes there are some arts that are more in line with JKD principles than others but that doesn't mean that they don't have aspects that are out of line with those same principles. Foil Fencing mirrors JKD. But will taking Foil Fencing make you a better fighter?

The bottom line is that it's not so much what (techniques) you train, but how you train them.

Check out this thread. http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...ad.php?t=24629

As for The Art of Expressing the Human Body, I don't have my copy at my current residence, and it's been ages since I've read through it. I do recall a lot of it being about isometric drills (applying force to an immovable object, real or imaginary). Keep in mind that the book is based on 1970s era information. It's great for a snapshot of how Bruce Lee trained, but may not be the best way for you.

Good luck and enjoy your training!

I'm perfectly fine with not staying restrained to one style.
I know a little bit about the concept of JKD. I realize that it is being "Formless, but having form."

I realize that it has certain techniques, but the application is what really matters right?

My brother and his good friend (Both very good martial artists) read the Tao in what I would say was the middle of their now extensive training. I always listened to them when they told me I should always strive to throw at all things that don't work for me, and find out what is practical in my eyes. They've both taken the major arts that most of the "Schools" would teach (Wing Chun, Jujutsu, Muay Thai, and Tae Kwon Do[I know Tae Kwon Do is rarely if ever included as curriculum, but that's one of the arts those two work with]), but I realize that it really lies down to them doing their own thing. His friend was telling me this analogy (That probably comes from the Tao) on a recent visit:
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"An artist doesn't paint a masterpiece by going to an institution. He may go to an institution to learn how to paint, but only when he forgets everything, and lets the brush go free, that he makes a masterpiece."
We were practicing a few kicks one night, and I think my brother and his friend were using "Interception" with Tae Kwon Do kicks. Needless to say, I couldn't even wish to keep up.

Thanks for the reply.
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Kyukido or JKD...it is really just a name. One man learns how to fight...punch kicks, blocks, dodges, grappel...and calls Super-do. Another learns how to grappel, kick, throw, tackle...goes on to learn ducking, dodging and pucnhing...and calls it Hyper-do.

What would happen when both of them fight? Names don't matter. Its just about your understanding of the tools (skills) and how to use it against the other guy.

About preferring one style over another. Does style matter? it's just about hte fight.

So what's the difference between a judoka and a taekwondo guy?. Nothing except tat...if the judoka was so intent in throwing and grapelling...leaving out the other side of the whole, and the TKD knew nothing about grappeling and was only polished in strikes...I hope you can see where the imbalance is.

So if nothing matters...would a martial art guy have an advantage over a street brawler? yes...if he was sincere. why? street brawler = exprience. sincere artist = study + experience. but what studies? just how to use your body effectively as a weapon, while not being an ass and gung ho...destroying yourself.
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