which is better jkd conepts or the original

kseer · 09-29-2007, 09:13 AM

i would like to use it for just self defense purposes i recently had some events go down that made me think "wow i realy have no idea what to do in this situation" but i REALY REALY REAAAALLLLYY wana change that so which would be better

aku aku · 09-30-2007, 03:21 PM

Before we go any further, what's available in your area? That might be the deciding factor.

kseer · 09-30-2007, 04:42 PM

I live in nw houston so ya

aseepish · 09-30-2007, 07:43 PM

Both. Neither. All three.

Monkeys.

Seriously, which is better depends on a) who the individual instructor is and b) how much work you are willing to put in to make the instruction work for you.

kseer · 09-30-2007, 08:38 PM

well im willin to work very hard and i want a personal trainer its either gona be tim mousel..or elite martial arts

Britt · 10-01-2007, 10:45 AM

I trained with Tim for a year and I'd highly recommend him. He's top notch.

Blue Wave Gym · 10-01-2007, 11:32 AM

How about functional jkd from S.B.G.I

from what I've seen Tim seems like a good instructor I don't know the other people mentioned elite martial arts

g-bells · 10-01-2007, 02:30 PM

JKD/Kali Acadamey- Tim McFatridge is the instructor

Garland · 10-01-2007, 11:19 PM

Tim's posted here a few times...he seems like a great guy, and from what I've heard from him here, an excellent instructor.

and as a shameless plug for him...here's a youtube video...great marketing tool, Tim;

YouTube - Jeet Kune Do JKD Kali (http://jkdkali.com)

g-bells · 10-02-2007, 02:24 PM

quality individual!!!!!!

Mike Brewer · 10-02-2007, 09:12 PM

I'll vouch for Tim's quality as well. he just came out and went through the Level I Modern Army Combatives Program, and is now certified to teach that program as well. Although I was only a facilitator for the trip and I didn't train him for MACP, we got to hang out some and discuss training ideas, Larry Hartsell, and other aspects of martial arts. Given that and the video material I've seen, I'd say if you're within driving range of his school, you'd learn a lot from the man. His assistant Cory (in the video) is a top-notch guy as well.

bambam · 10-03-2007, 04:15 PM

Not to take away anything from Tim Mousel, but you should also check out the classes at Elite. Joe Soliz teaches the JKD curriculum and is a great instructor.

Blue Wave Gym · 10-03-2007, 04:32 PM

Great video great suff except.............Trapping range.............:P
Somebody show me a sport combat fight where what is commonly known as trapping (not grappling moves

is the deciding factor in a fight and I'll stfu. The only examples i can think of is when a thai boxer or mma person grabs a person's kick
I've never seen anything even resembling wingchun/kungfu type trapping used much less being the deciding factor in a fight.
If you have any sport combat fight videos showing otherwise please post them I'd really like this question answer one way or the other.

Tant01 · 10-03-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kseer

Re: which is better jkd conepts or the original

i would like to use it for just self defense purposes i recently had some events go down that made me think "wow i realy have no idea what to do in this situation" but i REALY REALY REAAAALLLLYY wana change that so which would be better

White bread or wheat, eh?

Self defense is a legal term to justify the use of force.

bread and water.

or bread and butter(?)

what works for YOU?

g-bells · 10-04-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Wave Gym

Great video great suff except.............Trapping range.............:P
Somebody show me a sport combat fight where what is commonly known as trapping (not grappling moves

is the deciding factor in a fight and I'll stfu. The only examples i can think of is when a thai boxer or mma person grabs a person's kick
I've never seen anything even resembling wingchun/kungfu type trapping used much less being the deciding factor in a fight.
If you have any sport combat fight videos showing otherwise please post them I'd really like this question answer one way or the other.

you don't look for a trap it just happens, and opportunity presents itself and you'll just re-act. by looking to trap,intially, you are setting yourself up to fail.

boxers also utilize trapping for that matter.

a simple trap can be: you throw out a jab and your OP blocks/parries it and you pak sao while simultaneously hit

09-29-2007, 09:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
kseer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21	which is better jkd conepts or the original i would like to use it for just self defense purposes i recently had some events go down that made me think "wow i realy have no idea what to do in this situation" but i REALY REALY REAAAALLLLYY wana change that so which would be better

09-30-2007, 07:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
aseepish Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: British Columbia Posts: 1,601	Both. Neither. All three. Monkeys. Seriously, which is better depends on a) who the individual instructor is and b) how much work you are willing to put in to make the instruction work for you. __________________ "It was about that time I realized that searching was my symbol, the emblem of those who go out at night with nothing in mind, the motives of a destroyer of compasses." -Cortázar

10-01-2007, 11:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 960	How about functional jkd from S.B.G.I from what I've seen Tim seems like a good instructor I don't know the other people mentioned elite martial arts __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

10-01-2007, 02:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
g-bells Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 194	JKD/Kali Acadamey- Tim McFatridge is the instructor __________________ " not all who wonder are lost "

10-02-2007, 02:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
g-bells Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 194	quality individual!!!!!! __________________ " not all who wonder are lost "

09-30-2007, 03:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
aku aku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Oakdale, MN Posts: 208	Before we go any further, what's available in your area? That might be the deciding factor.

09-30-2007, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
kseer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21	I live in nw houston so ya

09-30-2007, 08:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
kseer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21	well im willin to work very hard and i want a personal trainer its either gona be tim mousel..or elite martial arts

10-01-2007, 10:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Britt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 555	I trained with Tim for a year and I'd highly recommend him. He's top notch.

10-02-2007, 09:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mike Brewer Moderate Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,151	I'll vouch for Tim's quality as well. he just came out and went through the Level I Modern Army Combatives Program, and is now certified to teach that program as well. Although I was only a facilitator for the trip and I didn't train him for MACP, we got to hang out some and discuss training ideas, Larry Hartsell, and other aspects of martial arts. Given that and the video material I've seen, I'd say if you're within driving range of his school, you'd learn a lot from the man. His assistant Cory (in the video) is a top-notch guy as well.

10-03-2007, 04:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
bambam Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 8	Not to take away anything from Tim Mousel, but you should also check out the classes at Elite. Joe Soliz teaches the JKD curriculum and is a great instructor.

10-03-2007, 04:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 960	Great video great suff except.............Trapping range.............:P Somebody show me a sport combat fight where what is commonly known as trapping (not grappling moves is the deciding factor in a fight and I'll stfu. The only examples i can think of is when a thai boxer or mma person grabs a person's kick I've never seen anything even resembling wingchun/kungfu type trapping used much less being the deciding factor in a fight. If you have any sport combat fight videos showing otherwise please post them I'd really like this question answer one way or the other. __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

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