If you mix and match martial arts on your own, can it still be called JKD?

[legshot420]

Bruce Lee said that JKD is not a style but a concept. What if you took that concept and applied it to your own style? When you apply the concept of JKD to your own training, does that make you a JKD practitioner?

[Ben Grimm]

But according to Ted Wong I think.... (Could be wrong) He said something along the lines of JKD being a concept but it still had to have the fundamental techniques and concepts that make up JKD. As I said I could be wrong but I remember reading that a few years ago. Otherwise I guess it's still JKD. Bruce Lee said to add your own experiences and make it your own.

[Dirty Fighter]

jeet kune do is a formless shapeless style bruce lee said it is forever changing and is never the same and anyone can use it and if the name jeet kune do turns into a style then get rid of the name for it is just a name so pretty much anything can be called jeet kune do as long as it is some type of fighting i guess

[Ben Grimm]

But just say for example I studied sword styles now if I mixed techniques from them, is it JKD?

[Dirty Fighter]

Originally Posted by Ben Grimm

But just say for example I studied sword styles now if I mixed techniques from them, is it JKD?

of course it is as long as it has no form and is not a set style then i'm sure bruce would say it is jeet kune do

[g-bells]

wrong, jkd has a foundation and it includes economy of motion,directness,simplicity. To just mix and mash things together is'nt being formless it's just combinding. not to say it's bad but it's not jkd

[legshot420]

Originally Posted by g-bells

wrong, jkd has a foundation and it includes economy of motion,directness,simplicity. To just mix and mash things together is'nt being formless it's just combinding. not to say it's bad but it's not jkd

What if you took those into account and conducted the same research but with different results? As times and culture change, so do fighting methods and their believed effectiveness. It was believed not long ago that the art to learn was Karate or TKD, after the first UFC's it was believed that Brazilian JiuJitsu was the only style that mattered. Nowadays the belief is that wrestling and either Boxing or Muay Thai are just as important as being able to deliver an armbar or leg lock. What I'm talking about isn't just taking what looks cool and wanting to learn that but taking what one believes to be effective based on the tenets of the concepts that Bruce Lee lay the ground for and not getting the same results as Bruce Lee himself.

[g-bells]

but jkd has a foundation and if you don't know it then how can you claim to be doing jkd? BL researched and came up with what he felt was best.it is up to the individual to get a good understanding of these base fundamentals and adapt them to fit your own way and as for as time changes so should your MA, well my understanding is a finger jab to the eyes/throat, kick to the groin, etc worked 1000 yrs agao and it still works today

[Ben Grimm]

Which is what I tried to say earlier.

[Dirty Fighter]

Originally Posted by g-bells

wrong, jkd has a foundation and it includes economy of motion,directness,simplicity. To just mix and mash things together is'nt being formless it's just combinding. not to say it's bad but it's not jkd

jeet kune do is a name it can be used by anyone u can call whatever u want JKD jeet kune do was made by bruce lee to stop all this strict u have to do this and that bull to be formless and 2 be whatever the fighter chooses it 2 be it changes to what the fighter wants it and needs it 2 be but u r right in some areas bruce lee wanted a fighting style that changes on the situation it used only pratical street techniques like low kicks and was designed to be simple effective and pratical but every fighter has there own unique fighting style

but seriously i don't want a argument i hav'nt done JKD i've read bruce lee's book the tao of jeet kune do and read a few articles and thats it i've been on martial arts sites before and got in arguments with complete dick heads who have never been in a real fight and are know it all losers so please leave it at this

[g-bells]

Originally Posted by Dirty Fighter

jeet kune do is a name it can be used by anyone u can call whatever u want JKD jeet kune do was made by bruce lee to stop all this strict u have to do this and that bull to be formless and 2 be whatever the fighter chooses it 2 be it changes to what the fighter wants it and needs it 2 be but u r right in some areas bruce lee wanted a fighting style that changes on the situation it used only pratical street techniques like low kicks and was designed to be simple effective and pratical but every fighter has there own unique fighting style

but seriously i don't want a argument i hav'nt done JKD i've read bruce lee's book the tao of jeet kune do and read a few articles and thats it i've been on martial arts sites before and got in arguments with complete dick heads who have never been in a real fight and are know it all losers so please leave it at this

no problems here bro, once you have the fundamentals done, a good instructor will encourage you to develop then in your own way which is where i think people get confused. We can have a intelligent discussion without it going south so no worrries!!!

[Dirty Fighter]

Originally Posted by g-bells

no problems here bro, once you have the fundamentals done, a good instructor will encourage you to develop then in your own way which is where i think people get confused. We can have a intelligent discussion without it going south so no worrries!!!

that i agree with once u get to a certain skill level in any type of martial art u can develop your own style and ur teacher usually encourages u to do so and i think this article i found on wikipedia explains that quite well Freestyle fighting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Clubber Lang]

Originally Posted by legshot420

Bruce Lee said that JKD is not a style but a concept. What if you took that concept and applied it to your own style? When you apply the concept of JKD to your own training, does that make you a JKD practitioner?

If you genuinely want to learn the art and philosophy of Jeet Kune Do, then as g-bells says there is a defined path of study. It is a great path, taught by great instructors on the whole, so why not really experience JKD as opposed to re-inventing it?

However, if your goal is to do your own thing and walk your own path then that is great, but then why feel the need to use another man’s label? Do your own thing, call it your own thing, be your own man.

[fenwick99]

imho "jun fan" is a defined art with a specific structure. There is no JKD, except for two things
1. jkd is the eternal tao, or jkd is hitting before you block.
that's it

[g-bells]

Originally Posted by fenwick99

imho "jun fan" is a defined art with a specific structure. There is no JKD, except for two things
1. jkd is the eternal tao, or jkd is hitting before you block.
that's it

it's hiting and blocking at same time sin lue dar