Help teaching jkd concepts

[hullpaulg]

Hi all i have a problem with my teaching and would like to hear your views on the subject, my problem is teaching total new beginers as in no experince of training what so ever, im starting my classes soon and im in the midle of devising a year long foundation programme how do i know if im showing too much? what do you think i should have them learn first my thoughts are a jkd kickbox style class concentrating on footwork mechanics basic tools and defence and sparring(to keep it alive)im looking at a few free intro classes to teach them stance couple of punches n footwork with the idea of a rolling 3 month marketing programme so id be splitting the the foundation programme into 4x3 month stand alone parts(so you can get new students every 3 months and the whole class can learn the same thing without having to relie on and of the other stand alone parts, but after the year they have covered all basis beforme moving to higher class)would like to hear feed back i hope this makes sense and thanks in advance

[Tim Mousel]

Here's the approach I like... If my student gets in a fight tomorrow, next week, next month, etc..., what are the basic skills that will help them win? I like the idea of kickboxing but also think it's important to learn the basics of clinching, takedowns/takedown defense and some ground skills. Basic skills for knife are good too.

I wish you the best with your new program.

Tim

[Mike N]

I am in the process of trying to figure out a progression that works for me also. I have been starting everyone in a very basic kick boxing w/ step and slide footwork. 4 counts series, and other partner feedback drills that are really basic. I have done that because we don't have any Kickboxing or sport combative schools around so everyone in is a brawler or traditional martial arts. This is also giving me the ability to learn to work the room and not get hyper focused on an individual which I have a tendency to do with grappling and clinch work. I currently don't do weapons I have a friend instructor that is handling that as a separate deal.

[Dan Biciocchi]

For me, I really like to emphasize a self defense type program first, to give my student a foundation. Then from that foundation they can "build whatever house they desire" as all my programs are as personal to the student as I can make them. Once my people are kicking groins and scratching eyes then we can move on to the ready stance, and roundhouse kicks and what not. I do understand however a lot of people want to skip the boring stuff and go right to the fancy stuff.

[Mike N]

I have totally avoided the 'self' defense part. Just because of all the elements in todays society to have to keep in mind for aspects of self defense. I have heard the 'better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6' mentality. That is all and good till a student of yours is being sued or yourself. So I have decided to not use any self defense terminology. I explain to them why also so they aren't in the dark. They need to seek out what is legal and isn't, ect. I feel I am not qualified to teach the depth of information required for what I would term a self defense class. Because one element of self defense is the after the fact litigation. I believe it was Mas Ayoob that has that as an element in his course. Prepare(physical and legal), avoid, actual event, survive/win, after event litigation. That is a major summary i think it was 5 or 7 different stages of self defense.

I totally enjoy what would be boring by alot of standards also. I love MT count drills. I would do them every day in class. I also love trapping but I don't do it much it confuses people and isn't high percentage. It is fun stuff to break monotany when people get burnt out on routine.
I am fixing to change up and do a very strict progression heavy on Muay Thai, Sambo, submission grappling. We may do some single stick, single dagger also. I find it very hard to put a progression to paper. I try to make phases or levels but they get so large in size that it becomes a pretty big requirement. I am in the trial and error stages.

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by Mike N

I have totally avoided the 'self' defense part. Just because of all the elements in todays society to have to keep in mind for aspects of self defense. I have heard the 'better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6' mentality. That is all and good till a student of yours is being sued or yourself. So I have decided to not use any self defense terminology. I explain to them why also so they aren't in the dark. They need to seek out what is legal and isn't, ect. I feel I am not qualified to teach the depth of information required for what I would term a self defense class. Because one element of self defense is the after the fact litigation. I believe it was Mas Ayoob that has that as an element in his course. Prepare(physical and legal), avoid, actual event, survive/win, after event litigation. That is a major summary i think it was 5 or 7 different stages of self defense.

I totally enjoy what would be boring by alot of standards also. I love MT count drills. I would do them every day in class. I also love trapping but I don't do it much it confuses people and isn't high percentage. It is fun stuff to break monotany when people get burnt out on routine.
I am fixing to change up and do a very strict progression heavy on Muay Thai, Sambo, submission grappling. We may do some single stick, single dagger also. I find it very hard to put a progression to paper. I try to make phases or levels but they get so large in size that it becomes a pretty big requirement. I am in the trial and error stages.

"SELF DEFENCE" is a legal term to justify the use of force...