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Old 05-27-2009, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi ppl.how do u do chi sao exercise? And does it help with handspeed, coordination?im doing kickboxing but im looking into other exercises to help
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Do a search in the chinese forum, there were several recent threads on Chi Sao.
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If you are focusing on kickboxing, traditional boxing exercises are going to help much more than Chi Sao.
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If you're kickboxing, the last thing you need is chi sao. Why not work on boxing combinations, the heavy bag and cardio? One doesn't prepare for foot race by swimming; it takes running.
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If you're kickboxing, the last thing you need is chi sao. Why not work on boxing combinations, the heavy bag and cardio? One doesn't prepare for foot race by swimming; it takes running.
But doesnt chi sao help with any form of fighting?sure i'll still do punch combinations but help me if im wrong...chi sao hels with close fighting and counter attacks? Thanx for the replies guys.
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If you're kickboxing, the last thing you need is chi sao. Why not work on boxing combinations, the heavy bag and cardio? One doesn't prepare for foot race by swimming; it takes running.
But doesnt chi sao help with any form of fighting?sure i'll still do punch combinations but help me if im wrong...chi sao hels with close fighting and counter attacks? Thanx for the replies guys.
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Chi Sao is an energy drill that helps to promote sensitivity for trapping hands. Trapping range is not where you want to spend too much time if you are boxing and kicking. I like the drill and use it but trying to trap hands against a skilled boxer is going to frustrate you. Supposedly Bruce Lee was getting away from the practice towards the end of his life and kickboxing champion Joe Lewis felt it had no value for kickboxing. In our school we find it has a lot of value when we are trying to grab the neck so we can head butt or elbow. When trying to grab the neck sometimes arms can get tangled up or trapped and slapping the opponents’ hands away to clear path to the neck can sometimes be helpful. That’s where chi sao can be helpful for us, to build attributes that help us move through trapping range to the clinch.
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Bits and pieces of martial arts thrown together at random rarely produces results. The notion of taking a Kickboxing base and adding Chi Sai, without any real understanding of the purpose or benefit, is possibly going to waste years of your time.

In my personal opinion, if you are looking to supplement a Kickboxing base with an ability at close range, look no further than Muay Thai. It is unsurpassed in clinch range from a functional point of view, and will complement perfectly what you are doing now.
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But doesnt chi sao help with any form of fighting?sure i'll still do punch combinations but help me if im wrong...chi sao hels with close fighting and counter attacks? Thanx for the replies guys.
There's a lot of good advice on this thread regarding what you should do. AND they all conclude that chi sao is useless for what you're trying to accomplish.

Chi sao is a sensitivity drill where you try to sense and misdirect your opponent's energy. The exercise is done in a range where you would get your clock cleaned in a real fight. In boxing or kickboxing, you would be in-fighting or in the clinch. Therefore, work on clinch techniques. Muay Thai, as someone said is a good bet. Don't waste your time on something as silly as chi sao.

Like I said, if you want to run a marathon; run don't swim.
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