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Old 10-05-2009, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I came across this blog that had some cool things that Bruce Lee espoused. I know Lee was very into positive mind-set study, which is something that we all need to take a look at frequently.

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I think these were all in the Tao of JKD if I remember correctly,also I belive number 6...“To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities,was actually "to hell with circumstances I make circumstances.

Thanks for the revisit Joe.
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Hey Joe (where you going with that gun in your hand?) Either you know the song or you know Joe Hubbard! I hope you are well

Nice post. I think most people already know that very little of Bruce Lee's philosophy was actually written by Bruce Lee, he openly admitted that he was a huge fan of Zen philosophy, Krishnamuriti etc and he simply re-phrased a lot of this work to get his point across. Nothing wrong with that, as we know its the artist and not necessarily the art that matters, and he was a wonderful communicator. It is good to revisit his stuff.

Fire Cobra is right, one (actually several of them) are misquoted. Bruce wrote on a signed photo to James Lee:

"To James,
Circumstances, hell I make circumstances.
Take it easy (on the Brandy that is).
Bruce Lee"


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Hey Joe (where you going with that gun in your hand?) Either you know the song or you know Joe Hubbard! I hope you are well

Nice post. I think most people already know that very little of Bruce Lee's philosophy was actually written by Bruce Lee, he openly admitted that he was a huge fan of Zen philosophy, Krishnamuriti etc and he simply re-phrased a lot of this work to get his point across. Nothing wrong with that, as we know its the artist and not necessarily the art that matters, and he was a wonderful communicator. It is good to revisit his stuff.

Fire Cobra is right, one (actually several of them) are misquoted. Bruce wrote on a signed photo to James Lee:

"To James,
Circumstances, hell I make circumstances.
Take it easy (on the Brandy that is).
Bruce Lee"


Yep, order me an anorak.
Nice one Michael,

Michael while your here(Joe sorry to hijack your thread briefly) Can I ask you a favour please? when you go to Pinyo say a big hello to all the coaches there from Kru Kin,tell them all he is happy living and teaching in the Uk.

Thanks Michael(p.s) it will help you get a foot in the door quickly to,as Kru Kin was one of the founder coaches in Pinyo .

Thanks Joe!.
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Can I ask you a favour please? when you go to Pinyo say a big hello to all the coaches there from Kru Kin,tell them all he is happy living and teaching in the Uk.

Thanks Michael(p.s) it will help you get a foot in the door quickly to,as Kru Kin was one of the founder coaches in Pinyo
That will be my pleasure Fire Cobra, I will certainly pass that on.

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Hey Michael- if I had a pound for every time someone quoted that song to me...

But, I did once do a gig with Jimi Hendrix's ex-drummer Mitch Mitchell and we played that song- HA!

How many of you guys here have read "Fighting Spririt" by Bruce Thomas?

Bruce Lee: Fighting Spirit: Amazon.co.uk: Bruce Thomas: Books

And, on the flip side of opinions related to Bruce's life, how many here have read "Unsettled Matters" by Thomas Bleeker.

If you haven't read this, you can download it for free here:

http://www.sanjosekenpo.com/UNSETTLEDMATTERS.pdf

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Joe: When I first bought UNSETTLED MATTERS, I couldn't put it down. It was an excellent read. I decided that my 2nd read-through would involve fact checking Bleecker's claims. The following is where I AGREE with Bleecker.

1) Bleecker provides the most salient explanations of the cause of Bruce Lee's death. In an e-mail to Bleecker, I asked him which conclusion (e.g., death by poisoning or kidney failure/brain swelling due to a mixture of substances) he felt had more merit and he responded by stating that it depended on which day you asked him.

2) The Lee marriage was in severe trouble.

3) Linda Lee has concocted a mythical Bruce Lee, and has studiously avoided discussing her husband's flaws.

4) Bruce Lee had no interest in finishing the Game of Death. His main goal was to return to the United States and become Hollywood's biggest box office draw.

5) Bruce Lee's inability to let go of Amy Sanbo and/or any woman he was interested in (e.g., Stirling Silliphant's wife) indicates that Bruce had an obsessive component to his personality.

The following is where I DIFFER with Bleecker.

1) Bleecker claims that Bruce Lee's reputation as a skilled martial artist was more important to him that proving it on the mat. This is an absurd notion. Bruce Lee's art focuses on street fighting, not point fighting. Bleecker fails to mention the fact that Bruce Lee dominated the likes of Chuck Norris and Louis Delgado in sparring sessions. Dan Inosanto and Richard Bustillo witnessed two SEPARATE sparring sessions between Lee and Norris. Delgado stated in a 1969 Black Belt Magazine article that, "I'm in awe of Bruce whenever we spar."

2) Bleecker claims that the only martial artist who could make JKD work was Bruce Lee. Bleecker adds that using JKD techniques in the streets or in the ring "will get you killed." This is an example of Bleecker not doing his homework. I would bet the farm that Bleecker has never met Howard Williams, James DeMile, Bob Bremer, or Dan Lee. Bleecker did know Larry Hartsell, but he apparantly does not know that Bruce Lee took Hartsell apart in two separate sparring sessions. Bleecker also ignores the 2nd Generation JKD instructors who have proven in the ring and in the streets that JKD works.

3) Bleecker has medical records indicating that Bruce Lee took steroids, but he has no documented evidence of Lee's rationale for taking steroids. Bruce was an extremely paranoid individual towards the end of his life and he took several medications to curb pain symptoms, both real and imagined. He could have been using steroids in conjunction with other substances to deal with these real/ghost pains. If Bleecker's assumptions are legitimate, Bruce Lee is the only active athlete to ever take steroids and lose body mass. For example, a steroid free Bruce Lee was around 150 pounds in late 1969, but Bleecker claims that in preparation for Enter the Dragon, Bruce went on a cycle of steroids. After finishing this steroid cycle, Bruce was only about 126 pounds and he ended up losing 5 more pounds during the making of ETD.
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Hi Justthefacts

Have you read "Fighting Spirit" by Bruce Thomas yet?


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Joe: Yes, I have that book as well. I like the book a little better than Unsettled Matters because Thomas puts more focus on Bruce Lee's abilities as a fighter. My only problem is Thomas giving credence to the ridiculous theory that Bruce died of a hypersensitivity to hashish. This theory is akin to the official version which claims that Bruce died of a hypersensitivity to a headache tablet. Bleecker's two theories are far more plausible.
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This theory is akin to the official version which claims that Bruce died of a hypersensitivity to a headache tablet.

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I'm a much bigger fan of Bruce Lee's quotes to his students.

1) Learn to hurt them with a flick.

2) Just reach over and knock him out.

3) If a fight lasts longer than 3 seconds, someone doesn't know what they are doing.

4) By watching someone walk and move around, you can tell if they can fight.

5) Bodybuilders are big guys, but do any of them have real power?

6) If you can move a 100 pound heavybag with a side kick, you can knock a 300 pound man on his ass.

7) All I have to do is touch you and the game is over.

8) If I was 6'1" 190 pounds, I would rule the world.

9) The first thing I would do in a fight is take out your eyes.

10) When in doubt, blast away.
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