side stepping the round kick

[gungfuhero]

Lately I've been working the sidestep (female triangle step) against both the lead and rear round kick. It's been working great against the lead kick, but when I try it against a Thai Boxer's round kick I'm still getting a little contact from the foot (not a lot but I'm still a little apprehensive). The Thai kick has a lot more penetration than most and is a pain to avoid; what worries me is catching the knee before I riposte.

Any ideas on what I should do?

[sikal]

Originally posted by gungfuhero
Lately I've been working the sidestep (female triangle step) against both the lead and rear round kick. It's been working great against the lead kick, but when I try it against a Thai Boxer's round kick I'm still getting a little contact from the foot (not a lot but I'm still a little apprehensive). The Thai kick has a lot more penetration than most and is a pain to avoid; what worries me is catching the knee before I riposte.

Any ideas on what I should do?

My experience with the Thai kick went like this:
Ouch! That hurts.

Get out of the way. This delays the inevitable. Ouch!

Use female triangle away from kick and toward them ... this disipates a lot of the energy before it gets to me (and gives me a good chance to catch/shelf) ... but it still hurts.

Use the opposite side of the female triangle ... go toward the kick and jam it. When you mis-time it, OUCH! ... but when you work out the timing, it works well and puts you in good range for his elbows ... oh, I mean your handwork :-) Seriously, this works, but you then have to learn to deal with his hands/knees/elbows.

Later, Mike

[quietanswer]

Originally posted by sikal
Use female triangle away from kick and toward them ..(instead)use the opposite side of the female triangle ... go toward the kick and jam it... ...Seriously, this works, but you then have to learn to deal with his hands/knees/elbows.
Later, Mike [/b]

I agree. Maybe try using your footwork as you step in with the female triangle to add power to a punch with your inside hand(that is, the way boxers sometimes use the triangle footwork), making it a stop hit. That takes care of jamming the kick, and stop hitting him before he sets up anything else.. the punch will also help to jam the kick..as it's hard to finish a big slicing round kick if you get jacked in the face halfway through completion (while standing on one leg and spinning, no less).

If you don't like punching for an answer mixed with the footwork.. then use the classic Thai Shin/Forearm cover for the step in..raise up your shield, then bash through/jam his kick. hm..I think my instructor called it "crashing through" and "soaking the blow"..

I think these answers will work for you, if you train the timing on it.. also, you won't be recieving the painful shin on shin contact with this.. your shin (if timed) should catch him on his inner thigh/knee as the kick comes around..

[Edited by quietanswer on 10-24-2000 at 02:07 PM]

[sikal]

Originally posted by quietanswer

I agree. Maybe try using your footwork as you step in with the female triangle to add power to a punch with your inside hand(that is, the way boxers sometimes use the triangle footwork), making it a stop hit. That takes care of jamming the kick, and stop hitting him before he sets up anything else.. the punch will also help to jam the kick..as it's hard to finish a big slicing round kick if you get jacked in the face halfway through completion (while standing on one leg and spinning, no less).

If you don't like punching for an answer mixed with the footwork.. then use the classic Thai Shin/Forearm cover for the step in..raise up your shield, then bash through/jam his kick. hm..I think my instructor called it "crashing through" and "soaking the blow"..

I think these answers will work for you, if you train the timing on it.. also, you won't be recieving the painful shin on shin contact with this.. your shin (if timed) should catch him on his inner thigh/knee as the kick comes around..

[Edited by quietanswer on 10-24-2000 at 02:07 PM] [/b]

Also, if you do a stop kick as you step, you can prevent a shin-to-shin clash by catching his shin with your foot ... you have to time this to catch it before there's any power build up, though, or you'll end up off balance and possibly down.

Mike

[spiderchoke]

I like to either jam the rear kick with a stop kick or remove the stable leg with a cutter kick. You can also stop it with a cross according to Chai.

personal preferences.

[thekuntawman]

many people get hit with the power shin kick because they tanse up when it is coming, but dont move.

most guys will take a short step before they throw it. when you see it, one way is you can throw a knee or straight shin kick one of his legs when its coming. another thing you can do is go straight in and clinch or elbow his face. he should end up hitting you with his thigh. do this enough times, there will be more hesitation before he throws the kicks after that.

moving to the side is best when you have opposite legs in front before he kicks (example, your left in front and he kicks with his left). if you do this, moving towards your front leg side, blast his standing leg with your shin at the same time. it should make hims cut down on the kicks he throws and change his attack strategy.