The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Capoeirajc · 05-09-2002, 06:04 PM

I haven't took any JKD classed but I've seen some short trainning videos, and I mostly see straight punches not much hooks or uppercuts. So I was wondering if theres much of those used(hooks and uppercuts)or not.

JKogas · 05-09-2002, 06:44 PM

I can say that a lot of people don't prefer the hooking punches (unless you've got an attachment) because they leave you vulnerable to getting shot on for one thing.

They are also less accurate, and if you hit someone's noggin, you could break your hand. Straight punches are more accurate. If you hit the (relatively) soft tissue of the nose area, you're not as likely to break the bones. Of course, you do run the risk of hitting your opponent's teeth (in which case you should definitely seek treatment of the wound pronto).

However, if you're too worried about breaking your hand, hitting someone's teeth or anything else, you probably would do better than to get in fights in first place!

-John

Capoeirajc · 05-09-2002, 08:39 PM

The reason I posted that is because I see that most street fights have out of control swinging while the person rushes at you. So in case the sanario happens you know what to do.

Capoeirajc · 05-09-2002, 08:57 PM

The reason I posted that is because I see that most street fights have out of control swinging while the person rushes at you. So in case the sanario happens you know what to do.

gungfuhero · 05-10-2002, 03:12 AM

In Jun Fan, the base of JKD, we do use the circular path (i.e. hooks, uppercuts, backfists, shovel hooks, overhands, etc.). It is a part of our common arsenal, however, geometry tells us that the straight shot will get there faster than the curved. Therefore, we must look at why we would throw the curved shot at certain times: 1) it adds more lines of attack and 2) a lot of power can be gererated by a curved attack. Even in SiGung Bruce's "original" teachings, it is expressed that when the straight line is obstructed, the curved line can efficiently be employed. If you keep your punches short and sweet and your defense is good, curved blows can be highly beneficial.

pcarney · 05-11-2002, 11:00 AM

I practice hooks both with a fist and open handed (pimp slap style!). Not only does this protect your hand, I know from experience that a good palm to the ear can put someone down (perforated a guy's ear drum with one).

Burton · 05-19-2002, 06:25 AM

If you want to be able to defend against wild swinging punches (very common in street attacks) you have to practice against them. In our JKD Unlimited classes, we train where one person comes in wild, not controlling the blows, and the other has to clinch, takedown, or try to stay out of range. It is easiest to enter, because the attacker is usually rushing so fast that moving backwards doesn't work well. Aloha

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Capoeirajc Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Union City, NJ Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	swinging in JKD I haven't took any JKD classed but I've seen some short trainning videos, and I mostly see straight punches not much hooks or uppercuts. So I was wondering if theres much of those used(hooks and uppercuts)or not. __________________ Juan Carlos Velez

05-09-2002, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Capoeirajc Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Union City, NJ Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The reason I posted that is because I see that most street fights have out of control swinging while the person rushes at you. So in case the sanario happens you know what to do. __________________ Juan Carlos Velez

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Capoeirajc Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Union City, NJ Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The reason I posted that is because I see that most street fights have out of control swinging while the person rushes at you. So in case the sanario happens you know what to do. __________________ Juan Carlos Velez

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Burton Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Posts: 622 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you want to be able to defend against wild swinging punches (very common in street attacks) you have to practice against them. In our JKD Unlimited classes, we train where one person comes in wild, not controlling the blows, and the other has to clinch, takedown, or try to stay out of range. It is easiest to enter, because the attacker is usually rushing so fast that moving backwards doesn't work well. Aloha __________________ "If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!" Burton Richardson

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05-09-2002, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
JKogas Novice Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can say that a lot of people don't prefer the hooking punches (unless you've got an attachment) because they leave you vulnerable to getting shot on for one thing. They are also less accurate, and if you hit someone's noggin, you could break your hand. Straight punches are more accurate. If you hit the (relatively) soft tissue of the nose area, you're not as likely to break the bones. Of course, you do run the risk of hitting your opponent's teeth (in which case you should definitely seek treatment of the wound pronto). However, if you're too worried about breaking your hand, hitting someone's teeth or anything else, you probably would do better than to get in fights in first place! -John

05-10-2002, 03:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
gungfuhero Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bloomington IN Posts: 317 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	In Jun Fan, the base of JKD, we do use the circular path (i.e. hooks, uppercuts, backfists, shovel hooks, overhands, etc.). It is a part of our common arsenal, however, geometry tells us that the straight shot will get there faster than the curved. Therefore, we must look at why we would throw the curved shot at certain times: 1) it adds more lines of attack and 2) a lot of power can be gererated by a curved attack. Even in SiGung Bruce's "original" teachings, it is expressed that when the straight line is obstructed, the curved line can efficiently be employed. If you keep your punches short and sweet and your defense is good, curved blows can be highly beneficial.

05-11-2002, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
pcarney Novice Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 56 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I practice hooks both with a fist and open handed (pimp slap style!). Not only does this protect your hand, I know from experience that a good palm to the ear can put someone down (perforated a guy's ear drum with one).

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