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Old 07-02-2002, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,
I'm a law enforcement officer and I'm looking to get into some form of fighting style, someone told me to check out Jeet Kune Do.

I was gonna look into jiu-jitsu because of the stuff we use in law enforcement to control and take down people with.

Can ya'll help me out?
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My kwoon (school) is run by the defensive tactics instructor for my local police department. He is a very good and patient teacher, and much of what he teaches is colored by his field experience. Also, one of the junior instructors is an ex-S.W.A.T. team member. Both of them swear by the Jun Fan/Kali mix taught by Bruce Lee's protoge, Dan Inosanto. They seem to place great stock in the universiality of the two systems when combined, in order to control/submit or tie-up (trap) criminals. I can tell you that having Kali training and a nightstick always at hand is a huge advantage, unless of course guns are involved. I can tell you from experience that manhandling someone proficient in either art is a mistake unless you are VERY skilled.

Any art that contains grappling/locking skills will do, though, as long as your instructors understand real-world application and the psychophysiological effects and controls for the "adrenaline" rush. If the schools you are looking for don't understand this, then don't bother.

Both arts, ultimately, are designed to destroy people in the most brutal and simple fashion when the absolute need arises, so you must take care how you train if your job is to control rather than mutilate.
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Find a good JKD school.

JKD is anything, you wanna learn grappling study grappling. Then break down the grappling into its simplest form to get the maximum result and apply that to you JKD training.
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I'm looking for something if I have to "lay hands" on someone that I can control them without hurting myself, and others around me, but still be able to control them using techniques.
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Than Ju-jitsu is the arts for you. Thats what it was invented for. The ancient samurai incorperated using rope to control people.

Ju-Jitsu is a great arts and it sounds like it just what your after. Let me kno ho it turned out.

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Fighter got it right.

Almost any JKD school worth its salt will have what you are looking for, and if you train dilligently, within six months you'll see marked improvement, and feel confident within a year. In four years there is the danger you might feel like a martial god (a mindset which must be dispelled as quickly as possible).

Most JKD schools train extensively in locks/submissions/grappling. These are the skills you will need to protect the peace.

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Ok next question is where can I find a school, or should I get books, video's to train by?
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Hello,

Brokenmace is correct. JKD does incoperate everthing, Grappling, stiking, evading etc. Its not a style, you take what works and toss what doesn't.

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Your life will depend on finding a skilled instructor, no matter what art you choose. Even Krav Maga (supposedly the model of easy-to-learn) requires good in-person instruction to be truly effective and safe. Books and tapes can help if you've got a foundation, and are excellent for refresher courses and expanding knowledge at higher levels, but they must not be used as the only learning tool for beginners.

A good place to look for schools are your local yellow pages, and this website http://www.martialartsresource.com/f...o/filframe.htm

Hopefully this will help you. Train hard!
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Books as Brokenmace said a foundation, but you cant just read them you've got to go and do every technique in it to practice.

Some of the best books I ever read which I tink will help you are:

Tao of Jeet Kune Do
Bruce Lees fighting method 1,2,3,4
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Techniques and Tactics: Ju-Jitsu


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Lightbulb If you go with books . . .

You should check out "Jeet Kune Do: Entering to Trapping to Grappling" and its follow up "Jeet Kune Do: Counterattack, Grappling and Reversals" both by Larry Hartsell. These books are very good and will teach you a lot about control and manipulation, and what to do if you mess up.

Study the techniques, learn the principles, and most important, as Fighter said, DO them--over and over and over. When you aren't doing them or your job, think about them. Visualize using them. Let others try the techniques on you and practice countering them.

Trapping and flow are hard to learn without a skilled partner, which is why I recommend a flesh and blood instructor.

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Visualization is one of the most important aspects of MA check out the training forums for more info.
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If you are looking for strictly grappling try brazilian jujuitsu. Don't waste your time with traditional jujuitsu. The difference is that with brazilian style you will do alot of sparring against uncooperative opponents. This will let you know if what you learn will actually work in the field. Remember, if you don't spar your techniques against uncooperative opponents you will never know if they work or not. Also, you have not truly learned a technique unless you can pull it off in sparring. Stay away from schools that dont spar. JKD is great, but it may have lots of stuff you don't need or want. If you don't want striking, kicking, knife fighting etc. then I would stick to brazilian jujuitsu. If you do want that extra stuff then JKD is the way to go. Also any school that teaches NHB fighting will also have lots of good stuff.
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I just found a place that teaches aikido, can someone tell me about this? Some other officers told me this was the best to get into?
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leave Aikido alone. Their techniques are good but their training methods are poor. They never test their techniques against resistance. I know guys who have trained Aikido for years and could not fight their way out of a paper bag.
go to straightblastgym.com and look at the section of q and a with Matt Thornton. There is lots of info there to help you decide what you need.
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