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Old 08-08-2002, 10:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fist The moment of truth...my fight MOVIE

Luck, plan, accident?
You be the judge.
All you need to know is, this is for REAL, and it is DONE.
Hope you all die laughing as much as I did.
Turn up the volume, cause there's alot of interesting sounds.

http://horizontal.4t.com/0wnag3.html

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Nice! If you had a little more experience with your hands, those luke-warm "traps" he was using on your arms would have been ridiculous! As it was, they worked, until you went low! I think you were aiming for his nuts the whole time -- don't lie!

Most of your kicks were to his shins, knees, and groin. What I don't get is, how could TKD guy not see this?! Didn't he feel that first push on the inner thigh? What a moron. And he still kept kicking high! I think TKD might rot the mind somewhat . . .

His kicks didn't even look like he was trying to penetrate. Oh well. No accounting for stupidity.

A good palm to the point of the nose, not the upward killing thrust, would have set his eyes watering, and you would have him there.

The kids cheering him on were funny.

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Old 08-09-2002, 11:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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well i tip my hat to you for scoring the winning kick to the groin.
the other guy had better technique and was able to get in on you alot quicker, definately in a point situation he would have won the bout. BUT i am not a tourney guy. whatever works is good for me. when i spar i like to remind my opponents how futile it is to kick high. it just doesnt work. my leg will just come up right under that kick and tap those pills.

my advice to you both is this: street guy: take some classes and dont become a book martial artist. when you go up against someone whos got experience your are gonna find that all the book smarts in the world wont help you.

TKD guy: if you are reading this here is my advice to you:
you have good speed and technique,,,now what you need to do is become a little more reserved and quit TKD and take hsing i and you will be a good martial artist one day.

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Old 08-10-2002, 12:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Brokenmace, you are one funny dude.
Seems like i went for his nuts all the way, but that was mainly because i wanted to hurt his precious TKD legs so badly.
I told you, this guy loves to kick people's heads, and no penetration at all (proof in the vid)
As for him being quicker, you gotta remember, it's his environment, and i was just getting used to wearing that damn head gear, which was tight as hell.
I'd like to join classes, but im freakin broke now, and anyway, i have no plans to fight anyone that's skilled (aka not this guy). I just wanted to personally hurt him.
Anyway, I did better than i thought even though most people doubted me, and i love the sounds in that vid, everything is so perfect hahahahahaha.
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well he sould of been ready it was "no rule" right good i think youve hurt is ego lol.
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ur pretty good for someone who never trained but next time keep ur hands up lol but u caught him right in the kisser lmao
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True, he should have been ready, but somehow I knew he wouldn't be.
Watch the video, and if you can understand why I won, I'll give you respect (clue: look at his patterns of moves)
It's no wonder I reacted the way I did...
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Well,from my 12 years of experience here is what I have to say...



about the TKD guy:he was stupid not to keep is hands up,he sould of penetreted more with push kicks to keep you off balance,he clearly didn't know wath to do when he trapped your hands.If he would of penetrated and used better punches he would of had a bigger chance,he was clearly just trying to do big fancy high kicks that are not appropriated,seemed like he loves to kick people in the head


to you jee t:you should of kept your hands up, because TKD guys like to high kick.Your performence was good kicking him to the balls when they were vulnerable(that is during his high kicking) it was a smart thing to do I watch the vid over and over laughing my ass out,also you could of punched him at the left side of his face when he punched you with is right a good hook at that time,would of clearly knocked him off his high horse lol good.
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I'm wondering why the TKDude didn't just grab jee t's arm and pull him into a kick to the ribs, the old grab-n-kick. The whole of five months that I spent in TKD when I was a kid, they would do this on a regular basis. It's the only technique from the style that I remember and like and am comfortable using in the street, although I usually mail it to the knee, not the ribs. Many folks don't know what to do when their arms are tied up. For that split second they are vulnerable. I love that move. It feels so natural too.

Of course, there is a trade off in coverage. You have to know when to pull it. Primarily I use it when someone shows a lack of affinity for kicking. If they don't know what to do with their legs, or don't want to bother, this catches them all the time. Dangerous if used more than once, really. But for a static sidekick to the knee or ribs? Once is enough. The rest go to his knees and shins because he's lost his mobility.

You run the risk of getting it returned to sender.

I was amazed when I didn't see TKDude try this. His camp are usually more wreckless about that sort of thing.
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Hey, wassup with the video. I can't seem to connect to it!
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oh yea,

sorry, but when I was putting up the vid, I had to ask my bro, who asked some other guy, to put a link there. And that guy only gave a week for people to download it.

I dont have the movie myself, except for a VHS of it.

I cant believe more people wanna see it hahaha
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can you get it put up again? or send it to us VIA email?

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sorry, i dont have the file at all.
all this was done on another comp, which i have no access to.
i only have it on video tape.
and i have no idea how to put it up again even if i had it.
i guess you can just stare at those pics, the fight wasnt good except for the last hit.
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Since I have trained in TKD, and cross trained in many other styles I often find that TKD get a bad rap.

And rightfully so, since usually it is taught in an unfit manner.

I would bet that in six months this particular TKD person will be better able to fight.

I have used High TKD kicks to produce knockout blows. I have also used it in sparring with JKD to great effect so sometime I find it funny when people say it doesn't work. Depends on how good you are and if you have the timing and talent to use it.

The problem most TKD people including instructors make is that they limit themselves to only what they were taught. They kick above the waist so they forget that there are many targets below the waist. They don't punch to the face because it's against the rules.

I trained my students to hit all targets as well as work on high kicks. but they understand that you have to develop tremendous speed to use them. they also know joint locks, and ground fighting and weapons. Maybe my school is the only one of its kind I don't know. I just hope that isn't the case

The person here was inexperienced but you most likely have provided the catylst for him to modify his training to be more effective.

I made the same mistake once when I was much younger. and although I did not recieve any injuries from my altercation. I learned how to use the techniques I had in a more effective manner.

Be glad he was inexperienced.


Little story:

Once I was teach knife defense to some students at another school. when one large adult grabbed the knife and began to wave and jab it about erratically. And said yeah but what if I did this. I promptly kicked him in the groin and he fell down. Then he said after he recovered that I was not fair because I didn't teach him that. I told him he learned that first day as a white belt. It was simply he failed to learn to apply it properly. He let what we were working on at the time blind him to what techniques he already possessed..

my only point is, don't revel too much in your victory. You may only have provided the education he will need to really harm you in the future.

Or maybe he dumb as dirt and will never learn. I'd think twice about engaging him in the future though. You never know when someone will take their training seriously.
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