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I was wondering which style of martial art ( Jujitsu or Aikido) is more effective and whose techniques are more practical. I am looking for a good "grappling art" to integrate into my personal method of Jeet Kune Do.
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I used to train with a guy who had a balck belt in Aikido & he said 6 months in he felt BJJ was way more practical & combative than Aikido.
This depends on which style of aikido.
Yoshinkan Aikido is a very tough and street effective style, They dont teach much groundwork - But bearing in mind that if you go too ground in a real street situation you are pretty much screwed anyway that isn't really a problem. That is what makes me think that BJJ is a really good UFC art but not so hot on the street!
When working the door, the majority of the Kickings i saw were one guy fighting another guy on the ground then 3 mates taking the him head off with loads of kicks punches etc!
I train in Traditional JJ and this seems to throw people in a way that they land without pulling you down, Have used throwing methods many, many times to great effect but would NOT want to go down to the ground!! I f i did i would be getting up ASAP!
look for a good Yoshinkan teacher or a TJJ teacher, BJJ aint realy that good in defence situations (in my opinion of course! )
By the way - by this i mean not much rolling around BJJ style, they do teach Idori techniques in which you learn to deal with opponents from a Kneeling position.They dont teach much groundwork -
Akido takes a little time to gether the timeing to get it working . At first expect to be hit a few times It has some good randori that benifits sencitivity. I would just borrow parts of it and go on.
Why don't you try both out take notes, and get back to us?
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Last edited by Szczepankiewicz; 01-24-2003 at 09:55 AM.
Ok then clever dick. What flavour should I like?
I personly like TJJ and Aikido but I prefer TJJ. The system I study includes stand up and ground fighting. we also practice everything from a non preset form to encourage self defense applications. I dont know what Jui Jitsu schools are available to you.
Last edited by ceasarx; 11-12-2002 at 12:04 PM.
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Bitty, I think you already answered your own question...
Last edited by Szczepankiewicz; 01-24-2003 at 09:58 AM.
Jujitsu is better..
I study Aiki Ju Jutsu (why does everybody spell JJ wrong!!!)
again - one serious lack of knowledge on the subject!!!biaatchhhhhhhhh! aikido Sucks..
If it sucks so bad - why then is it used by the Tokyo Riot Police - one of the toughest riot units in the world?
To get the basics of each of these arts takes time so train loads ok! - Pick a Yoshinkan school if you can - they tend to be a bit more physical than the hombu style. Tomiki has competition as well if thats what your into.Why don't you try both out take notes, and get back to us?
Agreed.Asking others what works best for you is like asking a room full of strangers to pick your favorite flavor of ice cream for you
I've never seen riot police "flow" with their opponent, using their own energy against them......
But I have seen them rub at crowds and smack on the heads with big sticks.
I have two good friends that have been doing Tomiki Akido for about twenty years One a godan other yondan They have become good in training But both know that in a real sitation it takes alittle time to gather the timeing to get the tools working. They like Akido But both have prior Balckbelts in Go Ju Ryu . I still think Akido by its self lacks street efectiveness. A bouncer in a club could use it for control purposes. Certain tools will apply on street use But choices make up the need each has there own.
The most effective Aikido guy I have met is Cacoy Canete. He does Aikido footwork in the process of flogging his opponents. He also does some Aikido throw, but I think he relies more on Judo most of the time for throwing. In any case, there is usually at 15 or 20-to-1 ratio of hits with the stick to throws.
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