Jujitsu or Aikido

Siegfried · 11-03-2002, 10:47 AM

I was wondering which style of martial art ( Jujitsu or Aikido) is more effective and whose techniques are more practical. I am looking for a good "grappling art" to integrate into my personal method of Jeet Kune Do.

NuffSpeed · 11-03-2002, 11:32 AM

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NHBMARK1 · 11-10-2002, 07:58 PM

I used to train with a guy who had a balck belt in Aikido & he said 6 months in he felt BJJ was way more practical & combative than Aikido.

chris davis 200 · 11-11-2002, 10:59 AM

hi people,

This depends on which style of aikido.

Yoshinkan Aikido is a very tough and street effective style, They dont teach much groundwork - But bearing in mind that if you go too ground in a real street situation you are pretty much screwed anyway that isn't really a problem. That is what makes me think that BJJ is a really good UFC art but not so hot on the street!

When working the door, the majority of the Kickings i saw were one guy fighting another guy on the ground then 3 mates taking the him head off with loads of kicks punches etc!

Not nice!

I train in Traditional JJ and this seems to throw people in a way that they land without pulling you down, Have used throwing methods many, many times to great effect but would NOT want to go down to the ground!! I f i did i would be getting up ASAP!

look for a good Yoshinkan teacher or a TJJ teacher, BJJ aint realy that good in defence situations (in my opinion of course!

)

cheers
chris

chris davis 200 · 11-11-2002, 11:03 AM

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They dont teach much groundwork -

By the way - by this i mean not much rolling around BJJ style, they do teach Idori techniques in which you learn to deal with opponents from a Kneeling position.

cheers
Chris

robertlee · 11-11-2002, 04:41 PM

Akido takes a little time to gether the timeing to get it working . At first expect to be hit a few times It has some good randori that benifits sencitivity. I would just borrow parts of it and go on.

Szczepankiewicz · 11-11-2002, 05:13 PM

Why don't you try both out take notes, and get back to us?

Asking others what works best for you is like asking a room full of strangers to pick your favorite flavor of ice cream for you....

Spanky

It is your path
You must walk

11-11-2002, 06:31 PM

Ok then clever dick. What flavour should I like?

ceasarx · 11-11-2002, 06:37 PM

I personly like TJJ and Aikido but I prefer TJJ. The system I study includes stand up and ground fighting. we also practice everything from a non preset form to encourage self defense applications. I dont know what Jui Jitsu schools are available to you.

Szczepankiewicz · 11-11-2002, 06:39 PM

Bitty, I think you already answered your own question...

Spanky

crazyjoe380 · 11-12-2002, 12:29 AM

biaatchhhhhhhhh!

aikido sucks..

Jujitsu is better..

chris davis 200 · 11-13-2002, 07:14 AM

I study Aiki Ju Jutsu (why does everybody spell JJ wrong!!!)

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biaatchhhhhhhhh! aikido Sucks..

again - one serious lack of knowledge on the subject!!!

If it sucks so bad - why then is it used by the Tokyo Riot Police - one of the toughest riot units in the world?

Quote:

Why don't you try both out take notes, and get back to us?

To get the basics of each of these arts takes time so train loads ok! - Pick a Yoshinkan school if you can - they tend to be a bit more physical than the hombu style. Tomiki has competition as well if thats what your into.

Quote:

Asking others what works best for you is like asking a room full of strangers to pick your favorite flavor of ice cream for you

Agreed.

cheers

11-14-2002, 05:25 AM

I've never seen riot police "flow" with their opponent, using their own energy against them......

But I have seen them rub at crowds and smack on the heads with big sticks.

robertlee · 11-14-2002, 06:32 PM

I have two good friends that have been doing Tomiki Akido for about twenty years One a godan other yondan They have become good in training But both know that in a real sitation it takes alittle time to gather the timeing to get the tools working. They like Akido But both have prior Balckbelts in Go Ju Ryu . I still think Akido by its self lacks street efectiveness. A bouncer in a club could use it for control purposes. Certain tools will apply on street use But choices make up the need each has there own.

terry · 11-14-2002, 06:54 PM

The most effective Aikido guy I have met is Cacoy Canete. He does Aikido footwork in the process of flogging his opponents. He also does some Aikido throw, but I think he relies more on Judo most of the time for throwing. In any case, there is usually at 15 or 20-to-1 ratio of hits with the stick to throws.

T

11-03-2002, 10:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Siegfried Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waveland,MS Posts: 94	Jujitsu or Aikido I was wondering which style of martial art ( Jujitsu or Aikido) is more effective and whose techniques are more practical. I am looking for a good "grappling art" to integrate into my personal method of Jeet Kune Do.

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NuffSpeed Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Babylon Posts: 110	Check out www.jkdassoc.com __________________ It only takes a single grain of sand to change the world.

11-11-2002, 04:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
robertlee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	Akido takes a little time to gether the timeing to get it working . At first expect to be hit a few times It has some good randori that benifits sencitivity. I would just borrow parts of it and go on. __________________ r.lee

11-11-2002, 05:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109	Why don't you try both out take notes, and get back to us? Asking others what works best for you is like asking a room full of strangers to pick your favorite flavor of ice cream for you.... Spanky It is your path You must walk Last edited by Szczepankiewicz; 01-24-2003 at 09:55 AM.

11-11-2002, 06:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
ceasarx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: oswego new york Posts: 116	I personly like TJJ and Aikido but I prefer TJJ. The system I study includes stand up and ground fighting. we also practice everything from a non preset form to encourage self defense applications. I dont know what Jui Jitsu schools are available to you. __________________ We fight to defend ourselves our family and our country. If not then we have done something wrong Last edited by ceasarx; 11-12-2002 at 12:04 PM.

11-10-2002, 07:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
NHBMARK1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusettes Posts: 143	I used to train with a guy who had a balck belt in Aikido & he said 6 months in he felt BJJ was way more practical & combative than Aikido.

11-11-2002, 10:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724	hi people, This depends on which style of aikido. Yoshinkan Aikido is a very tough and street effective style, They dont teach much groundwork - But bearing in mind that if you go too ground in a real street situation you are pretty much screwed anyway that isn't really a problem. That is what makes me think that BJJ is a really good UFC art but not so hot on the street! When working the door, the majority of the Kickings i saw were one guy fighting another guy on the ground then 3 mates taking the him head off with loads of kicks punches etc! Not nice! I train in Traditional JJ and this seems to throw people in a way that they land without pulling you down, Have used throwing methods many, many times to great effect but would NOT want to go down to the ground!! I f i did i would be getting up ASAP! look for a good Yoshinkan teacher or a TJJ teacher, BJJ aint realy that good in defence situations (in my opinion of course! ) cheers chris

11-11-2002, 06:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Ok then clever dick. What flavour should I like?

11-11-2002, 06:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109	Bitty, I think you already answered your own question... Spanky Last edited by Szczepankiewicz; 01-24-2003 at 09:58 AM.

11-12-2002, 12:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368	biaatchhhhhhhhh! aikido sucks.. Jujitsu is better.. __________________

11-14-2002, 05:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	I've never seen riot police "flow" with their opponent, using their own energy against them...... But I have seen them rub at crowds and smack on the heads with big sticks.

11-14-2002, 06:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
robertlee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	I have two good friends that have been doing Tomiki Akido for about twenty years One a godan other yondan They have become good in training But both know that in a real sitation it takes alittle time to gather the timeing to get the tools working. They like Akido But both have prior Balckbelts in Go Ju Ryu . I still think Akido by its self lacks street efectiveness. A bouncer in a club could use it for control purposes. Certain tools will apply on street use But choices make up the need each has there own. __________________ r.lee

11-14-2002, 06:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
terry Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 571	The most effective Aikido guy I have met is Cacoy Canete. He does Aikido footwork in the process of flogging his opponents. He also does some Aikido throw, but I think he relies more on Judo most of the time for throwing. In any case, there is usually at 15 or 20-to-1 ratio of hits with the stick to throws. T

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