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Old 01-17-2003, 10:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question supplement to JKD

I'm currently teaching myself JKD through the books JKD A to Z, and im looking for more throughs is there any martial art that i can study to add more throws and graplling to my martial arts. Also i high school wrestle so im looking to benifit that as well. Thanx! ( i also taught myself 2 kickbox)
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First ... find an instructor. Learning from books (and even videos) is *very* limited and you may be doing yourself more harm than good in the long run.

As far as throws and grappling, I'd personally recommend Silat (Serak is excellent with throws, Rikasan is excellent with joint locks, Harimau is excellent on the grond) ... of course, I'm a little biased

Others would include FMA (specifically the dumog aspects for throws and grappling ... again, I'm a little biased), Judo, Shuai Chao, Chin Na, Aikido, BJJ, Sambo, Shootfighting ... umm ... those are the ones that are popping into my head first ... but that is a long, long, long, long way from anything resembling a complete list.

And ... FIND AN INSTRUCTOR.

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There are only tae kwon do and karate instructors in my area but im thinking i should add judo or aikido.
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There are only tae kwon do and karate instructors in my area but im thinking i should add judo or aikido.
You might be right ... but I find that most areas (at least in the US) have other instructors ... and, often, a JKD instructor. They don't always advertise and they're not always easy to find ... but they are often there.

Where do you live? I (or someone else on the forum) may know of other instructors in your area.

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I think i will supplement my martial arts with pai lum tao.
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wow you remind me of my self. i too only have tkd and karate in my area. but here is the trick alot of those karate places have a ring i bet and there you can test your skills. aikido is dumb unless you want to learn how to fall on the ground like and idiot when someone grabs your thumb.

judo on the other hand is great. your best bet would be there for grappling. books are used to aid not to train. unless your a prodigy like me look up the true meaning of JKD and what bruce thought of it and then think about what you are going to do by yourself. and if you are going to buy books buy off www.amazon.com

wrestling helps i am taking it next year i am going to Ohio State (national champs-----all hail us) anyway they got this really sweet school that teaches BJJ, MT, JKD, and kali. IN THE SAME PLACE!!!!!. doesn't get much better than that.

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wow you remind me of my self. i too only have tkd and karate in my area. but here is the trick alot of those karate places have a ring i bet and there you can test your skills. aikido is dumb unless you want to learn how to fall on the ground like and idiot when someone grabs your thumb.
Don't underestimate Aikido. Just because you haven't met an Aikidoka who can't apply it doesn't mean there aren't any or that the art is bad. There are good Aikidoka out there ... and when they get hold of you it *hurts*.

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wrestling helps i am taking it next year i am going to Ohio State (national champs-----all hail us) anyway they got this really sweet school that teaches BJJ, MT, JKD, and kali. IN THE SAME PLACE!!!!!. doesn't get much better than that.
LOL ... I'll be in your neck of the woods later today

I probably know the school you're referring to. A friend of mine teaches Kali and Silat there in Columbus, too. He's very good. If you're interested in contacting him, shoot me a private message.

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anyoneknow if pai lum tao is worth learning
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ive narrowed it down to either pai lum tao or aikido any picks?
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pai lum tai art of the white dragon i looked it up on the net and it said it was one of the most affective arts. i would take it over aikido.
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pai lum tai art of the white dragon i looked it up on the net and it said it was one of the most affective arts. i would take it over aikido.
Of course ... because everything you read on the web must be true, right?

Not saying that Pai Lum isn't effective ... I don't know, I've never seen it.

But I guarantee you that Aikido is just as effective.

*It's NEVER the art ... it's ALWAYS the individual.*

What's really funny is that Pai Lum (I just looked at the website) is a Tai Chi system. You know ... the slow stuff that old people do in parks (at least, that's how Tai Chi is commonly perceived).

I've seen very effective Tai Chi (though never this specific system). And I've seen very effective Aikido.

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Ramus, it doesn't matter what anyone here tells you or what you read anywhere else on the web.

Visit both schools. Meet the instructor(s). Take a class (most schools offer free, or at least cheap, introductory classes. Failing that, they'll likely let you watch. If they won't let you join a class or watch a class, then it's probably not what you're looking for anyway. But most places and instructors *will* let you watch and/or participate.

Visit the schools. Determine which class and instructor you like the best. The system being taught is a completely moot point. If you don't enjoy the class or the instructor, then you're not going to stick around anyway, right?

Did I mention that you need to *visit the schools*?

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I just found out pai lum is alot like kempo so pai lum or aikido?
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I just found out pai lum is alot like kempo so pai lum or aikido?
Umm ... did you even read my post?

No one can decide for you and since none of us (that I'm aware of) have ever met either instructor or been to either school, we can offer no worthwhile advice.

*Visit the schools* and decide for yourself.

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Visit both schools. Meet the instructor(s). Take a class (most schools offer free, or at least cheap, introductory classes. Failing that, they'll likely let you watch. If they won't let you join a class or watch a class, then it's probably not what you're looking for anyway. But most places and instructors *will* let you watch and/or participate.

Visit the schools. Determine which class and instructor you like the best. The system being taught is a completely moot point. If you don't enjoy the class or the instructor, then you're not going to stick around anyway, right?

Did I mention that you need to *visit the schools*?

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i agree but i still think aikido isn't effective

decide which one is the best for you man
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