Hardcore Training Video Clip

[Demi Barbito]

I just pust up a new video clip on my site. It is of hardcore empty hand, weapons and firearms from years ago.

It has REDMAN SUITS, paint knives, espada y daga, 2 on 1 knife, guns, stick, counter assault tactics...

The clip can be seen at:

http://www.demibarbito.com/archive.html

Demi

www.DemiBarbito.com

[Kingston]

so that was hardcore eh?............

[kungfupanda]

sweet...very sweet...thats good training right there.

[Siegfried]

Truthfully, I've seen white belts at my karate school train more fiercely with eachother than those people. Not to offend anybody or anything.

[Ryu (JKD?)]

Sure they do. You guys should post some vids of your own training so there can be a REAL comparison.
Otherwise it's simply talk.

"hardcore" training is full contact striking, blasting, groundpounding, stickfighting, and scenario training. It should resemble as much NHB as possible.

I think the "hardcore" karate kids are funny though!
KIIIAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!

Ryu

[Siegfried]

From what I saw on the "hardcore video" those people bearly touched eachother. At my school we bust eachother's lips, ribs and hands up. Sure this is just talk, and whether everybody believes me or not I don't really care. I'm just saying that most of the people in those videos looked a little aprehensive to hit eachother. Much more so than at my school. At my school we don't really care about getting hurt or hurting eachother(much to the disgresion of my instructors). Yes, I know these are all just a bunch of words, but I'm going to look into making a video about my Karate school now that I got a new digital camera

[aseepish]

The whole point of this kind of training isn't to stand there and duke it out -ESPECIALLY with the knife training.

[Kirves]

Originally posted by Siegfried
From what I saw on the "hardcore video" those people bearly touched eachother. At my school we bust eachother's lips, ribs and hands up.

How long can you guys continue stick fighting full force busting lips and ribs and hands? Just asking... I mean, how do you hold on to a stick if your hand is broken? How do you breath if your rib is broken? I mean, of course one rib isn't that bad, but if you do it constantly, after fifteen minutes all of your ribs are gonna be shattered! If you train full bore with weapons, you have to tone it down a bit! And constant pounding with rattan hurts a lot more than same amount of unarmed pounding, the tip of the stick is faster and concentrates the force on smaller area of impact.

I'd say the training in the vid is just about right if you are to come back for more training tomorrow. I have often seen people who don't train with weapons that much say comments like these "oh, at my school we bust lips every minute and broke ten ribs per sparring round" but when you hit them on the face with a stick they fall apart. Ps. getting hit on your face with rattan makes larger damage than getting hit with a baseball bat. I have seen a face that got hit full force with rattan - it was ugly and required immediate medical attention. I have seen pictures of a face smashed with baseball bat and it was no pretty sight either. I don't think you'd like to do that on a daily basis, or even risk doing that by accident.

[Siegfried]

I should have made it clear that my comment only applied to the unarmed training. I'm sure that this video is an example of good training, I'm just not used to seeing people fight and not hurt eachother, its just strange to me.

I definately understand why they weren't hitting eachother full speed with the escrima sticks. My comments don't apply to the weapon training, which I'm sure is fully adiquate training. Its just the unarmed training that looked like my mom's kickboxing class.

[ryanhall]

I didn't like the disarms, and the stickfighting, like most practice stickfights, turned into a duel. The knives were a little like monkey in the middle. However, we must keep in mind that this is old material. From what I understand from Demi, this footage is years old, and he has evolved much from this point. I like Demi's other stuff, so I am inclined to believe him.

Demi: if you had the time to post some of your newer work, that would be cool. Liked the tactical shotgun, by the way. Very nice.

[Kirves]

Originally posted by Siegfried
I should have made it clear that my comment only applied to the unarmed training.

Okay... I watched the video a bit haphazardly some time ago, and remembered that it had mostly weapons training. I'll have to look again, more carefully for the unarmed stuff.

[aseepish]

Also keep in mind that the unarmed training is NOT free sparring, but a drill. The person in the suit is feeding attacks, The "defender" is countering with destructions and interceptions, entering, and finishing. The guy in the suit is trying to hit the "defender" and feeding random attacks, but the pressure is turned down - otherwise this would be open sparring.

[Kingston]

Originally posted by aseepish
Also keep in mind that the unarmed training is NOT free sparring, but a drill. The person in the suit is feeding attacks, The "defender" is countering with destructions and interceptions, entering, and finishing. The guy in the suit is trying to hit the "defender" and feeding random attacks, but the pressure is turned down - otherwise this would be open sparring.

ya it looked "funny" to me, now i know why, thanks.

[Bruce_Fan]

In non-armed segment of the video (2nd segment of the video):
The guy doing the attacking and overwhelming the guy in the head gear is Demi?

Just Curious
Bruce_Fan