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Old 02-01-2003, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Its been about two years now since started studing Bruce Lee's method of fighting and started to create my own method of fighting. And I have started to notice that some of the fighting philosophies in Jeet Kune Do, like not limiting yourself by sticking to unnecessary habits or ways of doing things, then finding better ways to accomplish a goal, have started to arise in my everyday life and effect the way I do a lot of normal, everyday things. As a result I am usually more effective at getting things done when I apply fighting philosophies to the world outside fighting.

I was just wondering if certain philosophies in Jeet Kune Do or other arts you people are studing have intentionaly, or unintentionaly influenced other ways of doing things, outside of fighting.
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By studying Bruce Lee's official style of fighting, you mean Jun Fan Gung Fu right? Jeet Kune Do is not a style if you understand Sifu Lee's philosophy. JKD is the absense of style. Basically what he was trying to ingrain in our brains is that its foolish to limit yourself to just one style or set form of doing things. I hope that makes sense. As to other styles or philosophies i dont know of any other style or martial art philosophy that is as open to other things as JKD. JKD was the kick in the ass that the martial arts world needed to progress, adapt and evolve. When Sifu Lee passed on, this world lost a true treasure, and there are very few still here that carry on the essence of his true meanings. With saying that i believe that Guro Dan Inosanto has and his affiliates have worked hard to preserve it. Sorry if i went a little off on this but its something i owe so much to ........ JKD
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Yes well put I myself train under the Inosanto lineage but to the subject of helping your everyday life it really does not matter from what style you train if that is what you lable it, The martial arts
in my opinion help center my life extremely.
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I owe a lot to JKD too. If it weren't for JKD I would still be a die-hard karate practicioner limiting myself to one style and keeping a blind eye to the wide world of martial arts.
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I owe a lot to JKD too. If it weren't for JKD I would still be a die-hard karate practicioner limiting myself to one style and keeping a blind eye to the wide world of martial arts.
Just because someone chooses not to train JKD it dosen't mean they are limiting themselves.

It means that you feel they are limiting themselves. Only they know what is limiting to them. Some of us chosse another path, because we feel there is more out there for us.

All martial arts have the same heritage, (which is arguable) and they grown into themselves which outsiders don't usually understand.

But there are many GREAT Karate masters in the world that can kick some ass. Its not always the art, its just as much the individual!
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What I meant was that JKD showed me that there are other arts, and most importantly other fighting skills(trapping&grappling). My training in the Karate dojo on just Shotokan Karate is not as complete, like the true Shotokan method was, not as complete as my studies in other arts.

I may learn good, strong kicking and punching at the dojo. But I may have to look elsewhere for trapping and grappling skills, which I most likely would have not learned about yet if it weren't for JKD. The teacher that I have just doesn't cover a wide range of skills. I would have never known this if I never took an interest in JKD.

But either way I think its all about choosing your own path and practicing what works for you in martial arts.
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So how did you get into JKD? Who is your instructor? I'm not trying to pick a part what you do, I'm interested. I know you are young, but most of your posts you sound like you know what your talking about.

Check out this link. Roy Harris decribes his defination of Jeet Kune Do. He is Vice President of Paul Vunaks Progressive Fighting Systems and a 2nd degree black belt in BJJ under Joe Moreira. Roy Harris and Joe Moreira are instructors to my former BJJ instructor, thats how I know the 2 of them. Anyway I've spoken with Roy a bit about JKD and he is amazing, I am in no way anywhere near being in his league. If you don't have an instructor he has an association that you might be able to get involved with.

Follow the links to his home page and check him out after reading his post:

http://www.royharris.com/forum/showt...hp?threadid=41
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Dude, what are you saying?
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Please akja ignore the crazy troll trying to get attention. I won't name any names or anything.

I first got into JKD when I started talking to my algebra tutor. Someone was giving him JKD lessons for tutoring his son, who just wasn't satisfied with those A-'s, from what I remember.

He started talking about how Bruce Lee got as good as he did only because he trained, trained, and trained some more. Ah yes, perfect practice makes perfect, (his favorite motto). Any way he told me that if I tried as hard as Bruce Lee did in martial arts while practicing Algebra I would most definately succeed in Algebra. I decided to put forth the effort of training like Bruce Lee in martial arts rather than Algebra,(just following my true interests). We then started talking about JKD, and then I became interested, searched for it on the internet, ordered some books and videos. And I've been teaching myself ever since. I still haven't gotten around to seeking out that teacher of my tutor yet. And since I don't need a tutor anymore I haven't found a JKD instructor, not that I've really looked hard enough. I've been practicing Shotokan Karate since I was 8 and going to the dojo off and on, and I think that I would get much better training in a JKD school. I mean the training would get right to the point.

There is someone at my Shotokan Karate class though that studies JKD, we mostly talk about trapping. He busted my shin yesterday when our shins collided in a sparring match. I learned he has shins of steel (due to many more years of enderance training than I), and have a huge green knot to prove it. But according to him, "What doesn't kill you will make you stronger or wish you were dead", which is in fact true. I owe him a good right hook to the jaw next time we sparr.

Thanks for the link, I really think that a JKD instructor would benifit me greatly. I'll check it out now.
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Roy Harris' training program sounds AWESOME! It makes so much since and gets right to the point.

I WANT TO TRAIN WITH ROY HARRIS!
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Roy Harris' page is a great source of info - some of the best descriptions of BJJ techniques out there. If I lived anywhere near San Diego I would be training with this man!
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I took some private BJJ classes from him when he came to teach my former BJJ instructor.

This man has an aura about him that you just know he is one bad dude!

A couple of times he actually came up to teach on the same day thay Joe Moreira came up to teach. Private training with Joe and Roy at the same time. Its an experience!
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I've met a few people that have the "bad dude" aura. When I look at them I just can't find an opening at all. Its hard to explain.

What kind of an experience was your training with Joe and Roy?, besides something we would all want.

Sometime soon I'm going to find a JKD instructor in my area. So, do you have any tips on spotting a fake?
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