The Ultimate in Martial Arts

stealthx · 09-03-2003, 05:25 AM

What are some options when defending against someone shooting in for a double leg take down against you. Against heavier and much larger opponent with a long reach, the sprawl seems difficult to be used effectively as they just barrel straight through the sprawl, and they still manage to catch you with side stepping deu to their reach. what options are there

xero · 09-03-2003, 05:41 AM

The sprawl and the sprawl with a crossface work well. It is all in your technique with the sprawl it can stop a bigger guy you should work on it more.

JKDfreak · 09-03-2003, 08:06 AM

I totally agree with xero,the sprawl is a usefull tool,if trained well.Try it out against different type of fighters,with or without sidestepping and you'll soon find out what works.

Bjjexpertise@be · 09-03-2003, 07:27 PM

Are you doing the sprawl correctly? Sometimes we do a technique wrong without even knowing it. Try it again with a friend or something. Remember to keep your knees up and off hte floor, you want him to bear your entire body weight.

IPON · 09-03-2003, 07:53 PM

I would agree with the sprawl and it does depend on your skill and technique. From a pure wrestling perspective I think controlling your opponents head as they shoot. I have used this effectively on the street and in matches. simple yet effective. As the opponent shoots you can control the direction, change teh force/velocity or simply power the head (1-2 hands) into the sidewalk or mat. Depending on your upper body strength I would also use a power half nelson.

sercuerdas · 09-03-2003, 10:09 PM

alot of people sprawl straight back, and a stronger person could power thru. when sprawling throw your feetback and pop in with your right hip. as soon as you hit the ground cut an angle and pop inwith your left hip. stay on your toes and control the head.

stealthx · 09-04-2003, 05:33 AM

thanks for the suggestions, that one about controlling the head seems useful, as where the head goes so does the body. thanks again

Half-Asleep · 09-04-2003, 07:39 AM

...i just read this thread... u know what would make it make a lot more sence to me... knowing what a sprawl is lol, n e one wanna give me a hand with that?

09-03-2003, 05:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
stealthx Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	double leg takedown What are some options when defending against someone shooting in for a double leg take down against you. Against heavier and much larger opponent with a long reach, the sprawl seems difficult to be used effectively as they just barrel straight through the sprawl, and they still manage to catch you with side stepping deu to their reach. what options are there

09-03-2003, 08:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
JKDfreak Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 52 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I totally agree with xero,the sprawl is a usefull tool,if trained well.Try it out against different type of fighters,with or without sidestepping and you'll soon find out what works. __________________ Progressive Combat System JF/JKD,Muay Thai,Jiu-Jitsu,Wrestling,Savate,Kali Edd Free your mind,be shapeless,formless,like water. Bruce Lee

09-03-2003, 07:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bjjexpertise@be Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: florida Posts: 2,023 Groans: 4 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Are you doing the sprawl correctly? Sometimes we do a technique wrong without even knowing it. Try it again with a friend or something. Remember to keep your knees up and off hte floor, you want him to bear your entire body weight. __________________ Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!! 45563 Pushups Completed 45563 Situps Completed

09-03-2003, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,573 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would agree with the sprawl and it does depend on your skill and technique. From a pure wrestling perspective I think controlling your opponents head as they shoot. I have used this effectively on the street and in matches. simple yet effective. As the opponent shoots you can control the direction, change teh force/velocity or simply power the head (1-2 hands) into the sidewalk or mat. Depending on your upper body strength I would also use a power half nelson. __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

09-04-2003, 07:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Half-Asleep Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	...i just read this thread... u know what would make it make a lot more sence to me... knowing what a sprawl is lol, n e one wanna give me a hand with that? __________________ "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do" Bruce Lee

09-03-2003, 05:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
xero Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bay Area\Davis California Posts: 35 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The sprawl and the sprawl with a crossface work well. It is all in your technique with the sprawl it can stop a bigger guy you should work on it more.

09-03-2003, 10:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
sercuerdas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 160 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	alot of people sprawl straight back, and a stronger person could power thru. when sprawling throw your feetback and pop in with your right hip. as soon as you hit the ground cut an angle and pop inwith your left hip. stay on your toes and control the head.

09-04-2003, 05:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
stealthx Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for the suggestions, that one about controlling the head seems useful, as where the head goes so does the body. thanks again

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