WTG

Hi everyone,

hope your all doing well.

I have a question, what is an "Americana" in Bjj?


Thank you,

-Rick

__________________
White Tiger Gym "Truth through experience..."

Burton

Welcome Back Rick!!!

An Americana is a big ugly guy who goes to Brazil and gets choked out. Seriously, this is the term the Brazilians use for the figure 4 armlock where the opponent's hand is near his head, as opposed to the one that is near his waist or back. The Brazilians call this the Kimura after the great Judo player. Apparently, an American showed this move to the Gracies and they adopted the name Americana. I met a man who is a Greco Roman wrestling coach who claimed to have showed the move to Rolls Gracie many years ago.

__________________
"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!" Burton Richardson

filippo

hi guys
and do you know what is an "ITALIANA"????

__________________
"TRAIN HARD BUT TRAIN REALISTICLY" by filippo
www.realfighting.it

WTG

Thank you Burton!

So it's the one that has the hand facing the same direction as branch up in Maphilindo? What's the common name for the basic one from the gaurd, the one that is like branch down?

An Italiana? Chiao!

-Rick

__________________
White Tiger Gym "Truth through experience..."

Burton

Using Maphilindo terminology,
branch up = Americana
branch down = Kimura

Filippo,
Credo che comprendo la tua domanda!
Italiana = stanco, ma molto contento! Ci vediamo presto!

__________________
"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!" Burton Richardson

filippo

hi sifu
very good your italian.......
i think that in may i'll test you for phase 3 in italian language, the test include also the ability to do almost one day seminar all in italian language ahahahah

we are very happy to see you soon here in italy and to train with you.....


CIAO rick

__________________
"TRAIN HARD BUT TRAIN REALISTICLY" by filippo
www.realfighting.it

Burton

Grazie Filippo!

__________________
"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!" Burton Richardson

WTG

While I'm at it, I have another question...

My top game is way better than my bottom game, my problems with the bottom game is mobility. Coming from high school wrestling and Larry Hartsell Grappling (80's and early 90's) I have a good ability to hold people down and finish from the top.

But when on my back, I feel much less comfortable. I understand what to do, but can anyone suggest drills and exercises to develop mobility on your back?

Right now I shrimp and rocking chair.

Thanks Guys!

-Rick

__________________
White Tiger Gym "Truth through experience..."

Burton

Shrimp and rocking chair are the two basics, but put them together with getting to your knees, tumbling, Granby rolls, etc. Getting comfy on the bottom is always a longer process than the top game. One tip: when someone is passing, keep pushing and moving away rather than just trying to stiff-arm. This often makes people get stuck on their back. Of course, training will cure all over time.

__________________
"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!" Burton Richardson

WTG

Thank you Sifu!

One more question.

If you were to make develop Burton Richardson's
Ground fighting for the street art, what techniques would you put in for blue belt for escaping back mount?

Another way to ask this is, what would you consider the two or three most important escapes from back mount?

Thanks again!

-Rick

__________________
White Tiger Gym "Truth through experience..."

armlok

I'm no sifu.....

Roll to get opponent on bottom, makes striking harder. If opponent is intent on striking, it's easier to turn into him and end up in his guard. If he hooks under arm(s) use regular escapes, same w/ attempted chokes. Turtling is a no-no. There are also some ankle(s) attacks with/without ankles crossed.
Your opponent can strike or maintain position(choke/neckcrank), he can't do both.

WTG

Thanks Armlok!



-Rick

__________________
White Tiger Gym "Truth through experience..."

Burton

For the record, nobody has to call me Sifu. I would actually prefer some other reference, such as Your Highness. (Just kidding!)
It is hard to describe in writing, but once you get the opponent on his back (as Shelton put so well) a very important tactic is to try to grab one of his arms with both of your hands, while arching and getting your head up as close to his as possible. He won't be able to choke you with one arm, and raising up will make it difficult for him to switch to the armbar. Try to spin to guard, or if possible, get your head behind his trapped arm, spin to knees, and pass.
The other idea is to protect your neck with one hand and fight a hook with the other and spin to guard, but you may end up mounted.

__________________
"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!" Burton Richardson

WTG

Thanks Sifu! LOL!

I would never speak for anyone else, but I bet we all agree, that we call you Sifu out of respect. I used to respect you for your knowledge in so many arts and your ability in all of my favorite drills

But when you did such an about face like you did, in public which took some real BALLS! (hey, who let Matt Thornton in here!!! LOL!) (joke matt :-) I now REALLY respect you for your honesty and ability in addition to your knowledge! (BTW, I still think your ability in all those drills are cool even if they don't come out in a fight) The fact that you would never require someone to call you Sifu, just adds to the respect thing. an endless circle LOL!
Anyway, thanks for the tips!


-Rick

__________________
White Tiger Gym "Truth through experience..."