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Old 10-25-2004, 05:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It encompasses striking, trapping, releases, throws, and joint destruction!
Everyone states that TKD came from Japanese ma(s) but always state that the system is lacking in its range of technique...so why if TKD (or the many original Kwans) was developed by Koreans who first practiced Japanese styles (ie. Shotokan and Jujutsu) would it be so far fetched an idea as to accept that true TKD/Oh Do Kwan would have joint locks, throws, and reversals?
The lack of properly trained instructors promoting watered down TKD (as well as all TMA) is the main reason for the common perception that TKD is not an effective means of fighting.
I study Chung Do Kwan and the school I attend also teaches joint locks, throws, reversals and a wide variety of hand techniques in addition to the wide cirriculum of kicks that most people see as the whole of the art.
It really bothers me that schools like mine and yours seem to have become the minority for our art.
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would it be so far fetched an idea as to accept that true TKD/Oh Do Kwan would have joint locks, throws, and reversals?
No it wouldn't. 9 basic throws are recorded in Karate-Do Kyohan. I believe Choi has them in his encyclopedia also. It's not a matter if they are "included" in the art but if anybody is training using them. If you aren't training it, then it's not in your art.
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You may have that backwards. If you are not training the techniques you are not practicing the art! Thus the phrase "bastardization"

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Many are not aware that the Pyong Ahn (Tang Soo Do) are nothing more than another name for the Heian Katas of Karate-Do. Gen. Choi readily credits his training in Karate Do as the primal existance of what became the Chang Hon (Chon Ji) patterns. Matter of fact, Gen. Choi's original TKD text has some of these Karate-Do patterns along with his newer Taekwon-DO patterns.

The primary reasoning behind the name "Taekwon-Do" as we all know was to deliniate from the Japanese influence. Being that the Pyong Ahn set was Karate-Do Katas, they needed replaced to seperate the techniques of the new art!

Also, Tang Soo Do (Tang=Chinese Dynasty, Soo=hand, Do=way)...the way of the China Hand is a comparison to Karate-Do...As Korea did away with all things Japanese, earlier Japan had done the same thing to all thing Chinese (Karate-Do was originally China Hand, then changed to "Empty Hand"!

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