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Old 06-09-2004, 07:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question step sparring

In my TKD notebook I have an old crumpled piece of paper with instructions for 3 step sparring. There are 25 routines which I had to learn and perform for my blackbelt test years ago and promptly forgot (I hated 3-step sparring - so stiff, so linear and stilted!, I knew I'd never use it).

Other people I've spoken to over the years about step sparring have talked about 1-step and 2-step, but nobody has heard about 3-step. Internet searches have yielded nothing so far.

Anybody out there do 3-step or know anything about it?
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Right here bro.........every day before the class spars we work on sets of 3 step sparring. We also do one steps....but I have never heard of 2 steps.
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I'm transcribing my 3-step routines so I can post them here.
Just out of curiosity, would you mind posting your routines, just so I (and maybe others) can compare.

I guess I'm trying to turn this forum into more of a source of supplemental information rather than a place to whine about why everybody thinks TKD is "useless".
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I guess I'm trying to turn this forum into more of a source of supplemental information rather than a place to whine about why everybody thinks TKD is "useless".
Good luck with that venture!!

We do 1 steps and 3 steps as well. The 3 steps are basically the same as the 1's, except that the 1's are simply a block/counter-attack, whereas the 3's will have 3 blocks and then the counter-attack. Haven't done any two steps, except on the dance floor at country western bars.

I've got transcriptions for all of our 1's and 3's, from white belt through black, at home. I'll try to remember to bring them tomorrow.
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It is funny you bring up step sparring. I have never understood it. Besides thinking it was useless I have always wondered why one step sparring was called that when there wer actually anywher from 2 to 5 steps. Here are a few samples of the ones I had to learn. We learn three one steps per belt up till green belt. After green belt they arent required for testing.


These are the three white belt one steps. The first two are against a reverse punch and the third a right front snap kick.

1. Right foot steps back to left front stance, Left high block,Right reverse punch,Left punch,Right reverse punch.

2. Left foot steps back to middle stance, Right inner forearm block, Right side kick, Land in middle stance, Right knifehand strike.

3. Right foot steps back to left front stance, Left low block, Left front kick, Land in left front stance, Right reverse punch, Left punch.

I am going to skip to green belt now and give you the last three we learn.
The first two are again defenses against reverse punches. The third this time is against a left jump side kick.

1. Left foot steps back left rear stance to evade, Right repeat side kick, Right foot steps down to left foot, Left reverse crescent kick to know the guard away, Land in left sparring stance, Left backfist, Right reverse punch, Left round kick.

2. Left foot moves to left to evade in left front stance, Right horizontal spearhand, Right foot adjusts distance, Left repeat round kick, Left foot steps down to right foot, Right spin crescent kick, Right foot steps down in distance to perform left sliding side kick.

3. Right foot moves to right to evade, forming left sparring stance, Right reverse punch, Left punch, Right ridgehand strike, Left ridgehand strike, Left knifehand strike, Left foot steps back to right sparring stance, Left foot steps to right foot right jump side kick.
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Spoke too soon,

...here's just some stuff I found on the ol' 2-step, Tex ...


http://www.northants-taekwondo.com/s...p-sparring.htm

http://www.jeack.com.au/~dngo/sparring.html#step

http://www.kotaekwondo.com/spar_il_soo_shik.htm

http://members.rogers.com/delfs/taek...teps__1-5.html

I know, I know... any retard can copy and paste, still...

Hey that last link looks like it has media!
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1 step sparring = 1 attack and one defense for that attack.
2 step sparring is 2 attacks and two sets of defenses. ex. attack: jab defense: parry, front kick punch attack2: round kick defense: evade sidekick, knifehand.
3 step sparring is 3 sets of attacks and 3 sets of defenses.

The progression is from static (known attack) in one steps to dynamic (unknown attacks)

It is a tool to build up to free sparring without overloading lower ranks with too much dynamic action.
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Dear All,

Step sparring is instrumental in the progress of a martial artist! When learned (taught) properly the 3 forms of step sparring have each an individual value...

3-step / Allows controlled practice of the application of new techniques. Also, it helps beginners with distance, timing, and rythem. It also allows a new student to receive "incoming fire" for the first time. This is equal to a slow underhand toss of a ball when teaching a child to play catch!

2-step / Teaches a student to react to more than one type of attack (as would be found in combinations)...for instance, front kick, reverse punch...while assisting in timing of a counter attack...Actually, in boxing -aka "the sweet science"- you are often trained to be weiry of countering the first strike as it may be a faint (setup) but to allow your opponent to prove commitment with his follow-up!

1-step / Teaches the defender (counter attacker) to attack under fire. You simultaniously attack during your attackers primary strike. The best defense is a strong offense!

Note: The number in the step sparring (ie 1 step) indicates the number of movements the attacker will be allowed to make before the defender counter attacks...not the number of movements in the counter!

These are great ways to ease students into dynamic movement! Hyungs (patterns) and line drills are static in that they are not preformed against a moving opponent. Step sparring is an intro to dynamic movement, and free sparring is the "DYNAMIC" end result!

First you teach your child to make a basket for the ball to fall in to (patterns), then you toss the ball softly (step sparring), quickly, the child can catch anything you throw (free sparring)!

These are the explanations given by my instructor years ago and they still make since!

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Note: The number in the step sparring (ie 1 step) indicates the number of movements the attacker will be allowed to make before the defender counter attacks...not the number of movements in the counter!
This is the way we learned it as well. Sounds like different schools/styles may have differing definitions.

These were our three steps which were part of the test to receive yellow stripe:

1. Attack - 3 stepping punches. Blocks - 3 knife hand blocks. Counter - Step out on last block, two punches to torso.

2. Attack - 3 stepping punches. Blocks - two knife hand blocks, one palm block. Counter - Step in on last block - backfist to head with same hand as last block.

3. Attack - 3 stepping punches. Blocks - two knife hand blocks, one palm block. Counter - Step in on last block - spin back bottomfist to head with opposite hand.

4. Attack - 3 stepping punches. Blocks - 3 knife hand blocks. Counter - Step out on last block, side kick #1 to torso.

5. Attack - 3 stepping punches. Blocks - two knife hand blocks, one palm block. Counter - Step in on last block - knifehand strike to neck with same hand as last block.

If you are interested in more, I've got all of the one-steps and three-steps through the 1st degree black belt exam. Let me know and I'll type them out in this thread as time permits.
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Shooter,

It sounds like my definition agrees! All the three steps you listed consist of launching your counter after the 3rd attack (thus 3 step sparring)...atacker made three steps!

I bet in your dojangs one steps the attacker only takes one step!

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We did 3 step and 5 step sparring at My old Shotokan Dojo.
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