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Old 09-09-2004, 10:11 PM   #31 (permalink)
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What doesn't kill them will make them stronger. I've been told that I don't amount to anything and to go kill myself plenty of times.

Bri you're doing the little ones a favor by being a mean bastard. He apparently hasn't learned by know that "what did I do to you " is not what to say so maybe it's time he learns.
Maybe you should quit being so cool. What did I do? You tell me that...
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Old 09-10-2004, 02:39 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Heres my take studio buddy.

You talk of being on the way to Black Belt level at your tender years (a problem in itself ofr real martial artists) AND then you put loads of questions about your own art on the forum.

Does this not give you a hint that a) you don't know enough to be a black belt and b) maybe your great art isn't so great?

But you're just young and I was being a bit harsh. Hell, I was in my 20s before I realised that forms, air punching and high kicks were all pretty useless for real fighting.
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:33 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Dude when I fight I dont stay strictly to TKD for self defense. I mix in others things like some JKD, Wing Chun blocks, Western Wrestling, and some my own made up moves that are effective. I'm not bad at TKD sparring either. I'll post some clips of me sparring laster to satify you. I do have what it takes to people a black belt. I may have all these questions for curiousity, and other people's opinions' on it. O' yeah, when I said left hand punching... I wrote punching the bag. I can punch some one fine with it, just my bag dude. I think flaming people ain't so great.
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Dude when I fight I dont stay strictly to TKD for self defense. I mix in others things like some JKD, Wing Chun blocks, Western Wrestling, and some my own made up moves that are effective.
"Dude"......Aren't you the guy asking about JKD in another thread? You have no knowledge of these things. You're making this up as you go along AND you are believing it too! Haw haw haw!
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Old 09-10-2004, 07:10 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I learned some JKD from videos and crap, I dunno when I fought friendz I would kick their ass with shit. When I fought black dude, I just forgot.
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Doesn't it suck when you don't do anything and for absolutly no reason somebody comes and picks on you?
H2H is a product of ghetto public highschools....and is probably one of the few normal guys. Kind of funny when adults over 40 think about public highschool today, they probably fade into memories of leave it to beaver......

Today Eddie Hascal lives his life with the crips, can curse all day and gets into a throwdown when someone looks at him the wrong way. Afterschool, the duffle bag has a hot semi-automatic weapon...

Beaver just happens to be in the school because of the ever so catatonic school district rolls dice to determine the district build up. That Beaver grows up fast...lol

Public Highschool (not all, but many) is more like a milder version of the HBO TV series Oz or a really f-ed up reality TV series
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QUestion,

What patterns will you preform for your black belt testing?

Exactly what Gup are you?

Can you list the names of the patterns you have learned in order?

Please answer these questions to set my mind at ease...Hell, PM me or email me!

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I learned some JKD from videos and crap, I dunno when I fought friendz I would kick their ass with shit. When I fought black dude, I just forgot.

DUDE

First, does your opponent’s ethnicity matter as you keep referring to "Black dude". If he were spanish, croatian, lebanese, filipino, native american, chiese, etc what differnce would that make a loss is a loss. I am starting to wonder if this is the reason you got your ass handed to you in the first place.

Second, you started a thread indicating how you essentially got your as handed to you, because of your style of TKD - so now I am to understand that you are also a video practitioner of WC wrestling and JKD as well as "some my own made up moves that are effective." So you are blaming TKD for your loss but your own "effective techniques" did not help you.

Third, you indicated on that same thread that your recent loss was your first fight. But not you claim other fights or at least your version of "reality based sparring.

Fourth, I will reiterate this point because I truly do not think you understand (nor do a lot of MAs) MAs, from the perspective of fighting, are tools that make the fighter more efficient and effective (one can always argue the efficacy and efficiency of particular styles but let's stay on topic). However, the MAist has the responsibility and burden of utilizing the techniques/philosophies correctly to make them more effective and efficient...period. As an example, a hammer is a tool, yes. The hammer alone cannot kill, maim or injure, but in one's hand it becomes a weapon. A paper clip is not considered a weapon, but unfolded and with the proper circumstance the femoral or carotid arteries are vulnerable, veins, eyes, gums, ears etc. Just as you have physical weapons the hand, feet shin, forehead etc are also weapons. The non obvious weapons such as awareness, avoidance, mental toughness and heart are also the MAs burden so is conditioning (aerobic, anaerobic and mental). The point is YOU have to make it work., you fist could be hard as steel and you could hit like a ball and chain, but if you freeze, go left instead of right, get tired etc. You cannot use the tools, yes. At this point, the philosophy and technique is meaningless it would be like using a gun with no bullets. Without the bullets the gun is worthless (I do understand the actual gun can be used as a weapon but again let’s stay on topic). Both bullets and gun are needed to create an effective weapon, MA is no different.

Without making this longer than I already have, my point is that you can change the style to BJJ, MT, a karate or kun fu style, combatives, beatyourazzkido, but in your current state it will not make you effective if you are not able or willing to put the technique/philosophy into practical application and embrace reality. Not "wow dude I can sparr, realllly coool like, in my dojang". Many are the BB, who cannot fight in any style whether they are incapable or unwilling by virtue of their heart (or stomach for fighting).
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My techniques did work in sparring fights against kung fu kids and regular people. This was my first real street fight and my mind went blank sir. I learned wrestling because I was on wrestling team and still am. The wrestling helped me get him on the ground first and helped get off my back when he wailing on my head. I suck now please don't make me feel any worse.
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I suck now please don't make me feel any worse.

I am not attempting to make you feel bad rather empower you. Everyone loses, big deal. What you are experiencing is not a kick in your ass but a kick in your pride. You were probably bragging about becomming a BB which is why everyone assumed you would win. Then you get your ass handed to you and instead of identifying what went wrong and what should be worked on you blame the style for your own shortcommings. Sparring is not real fighting, it is not intened to be, now you learned that. Again, your loss had nothing to do with the style. in addition to TKD you wrestle that should have been enough to win the fight unless you are not a very good wrestler


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I am not attempting to make you feel bad rather empower you. Everyone loses, big deal. What you are experiencing is not a kick in your ass but a kick in your pride. You were probably bragging about becomming a BB which is why everyone assumed you would win. Then you get your ass handed to you and instead of identifying what went wrong and what should be worked on you blame the style for your own shortcommings. Sparring is not real fighting, it is not intened to be, now you learned that. Again, your loss had nothing to do with the style. in addition to TKD you wrestle that should have been enough to win the fight unless you are not a very good wrestler


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i hate ground fighting, i wasnt trying to do wrestling tatics
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Losing a fight was the best thing that ever happened to me, It helped my change my training so that the next time I would be more prepared.
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Lesson One. Sparring is NOT fighting. Its like comparing a pleasant dip in the lifeguard protected heated swimming pool (staying in your delpth and wearing a life jacket) with being thrown overboard into the ocean in the middle of a hurricane.
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Trust me, it was high intensity. And I lost, but i found out somethings about my training and about myself.

one thing I learned is he beat me pretty good but didn't hurt me, I didn't die, I wasn't a bloody mass, i went to defensive and protected myself very well, but I didn't win.

I learned most people don't know how to fight, so even though he won, he would have never been able to win again.

I was younger and it taught me to be much more agressive and to hit with intent.

You can learn much more from a loss than a win.
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You can learn much more from a loss than a win.
Now that's the right mental attitude, if you want to be a loser. I'd trade the "learning experience" for the win anytime.
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