Originally Posted by eXcessiveForce

to keep this as brief as possible,

The running incident, I had been in the house for a good few minutes as he was pretty far behind me as I can tell. Some of what happen I know because of the police officer that spoke with him. The gun was in a drawer very close to the front door. I opened the door and there was a guy there, Didn't know in a few seconds he would start accusing me of things and start yelling. I pulled open the door and grabbed the pistol, and kept it conceled behind the door. He never saw it, situation was de-escalated.

The drunk showed up at my martial arts school after I had gotten done teaching. I was not teaching in a very good area. Someone was knocking on a door we didn't use much, Figured it was a parent (I was somewhat correct) so I opened the door and here was a drunk guy, At the time he was calm, but wasn't able to be understood, he grew agitated and I saw the gun, I had children in the building and no weapons close at hand. I kept talking to him but figured that the only chance if it got worse would be to try and break his neck. Never know if it would have worked because it de-escalated.

Three of my young students about 12yo had to testify against a guy that pulled a shot gun on them. They ran they didn't stand and fight.

I think maybe you don't understand what I've been telling you because you haven't been in the same kind of situation.


I've had a lot of experiences because I've done a lot in my life. I know many people who have been attacked. It wasn't a fight, they didn't have a chance really, They fought back, but were beaten badly enough that they almost didn't live.

I've dealt with people who have been raped, even a couple who have had knives and guns pulled on them.
As I said before I'm not talking about two kids fighting, I'm talking the types of altercations that occur every day to someone somewhere in adult life.

Fights go down after you get through you mid 20's because by then most people have learned what the consquences are or can be.

People who have to win have something to prove. I don't have anything to prove, I just want to live my life safely without interference. And the easiest way to do that is to focus first on avoidance and the use of force as the last alternative. This does not mean you are not ready to use force when the need arises, but for some people it seems their need arises much more freqently than others.

Go back over what i've said, if it doesnt' make sense to you now, wait, and hopefully one day it will.