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Old 09-03-2004, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just got back into it. Only problem is does anyone in TKD punch? I've thrown a couple punches but does the blocks and punches work at all? I never seen it done in matches. I've done like fast punches to the chest guard. Still where is the counterattack and punching technique? Im in ITF now for your information. My tournament is coming up Oct. 2 yay! Master said he's also gonna teach me Judo and Aikido in a couple of months, also some Kung Fu pressure points and weapons.
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That's one of the things I was ranting about in the "Olympic TKD SUX!" thread.

Hand techniques are being abandoned because supposedly it is more dfifficult to get judges in tournament to recognize and award points for punching.

Look at it this way, you're not allowed to punch to the head (ridiculous!) and the opponent is wearing a chest guard so he won't even feel your strongest punches. And you're not allowed to punch below the belt. Doesn't leave too many options, does it? As a result, more and more TKD stylists are abandoning the punches altogether and unfortunately also neglecting to keep their guard up.

If you're going to punch, you have to move your opponent to make it count. Your best bet is a straight jab right to the center of his chest (sternum) using as much force as possible, the kind of force that'd kill him if he wasn't wearing the chest guard. You have to step into your punch and literally push your opponent back making him lose his balance. You have to make the judges see him stagger backwards if you hope to score a point. As you can imagine, this technique will leave you wide open for a counter but on the up side, you won't have to worry about getting punched in the head, 'cause he's not allowed.

If you're competing in a tournament get as much advise and coaching as possible from those who've participated in the past. They'll know what will work for the tournament.
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If the school is wearing chest protectors don't expect them to respect a body shot with the hand.

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Master said he's also gonna teach me Judo and Aikido in a couple of months, also some Kung Fu pressure points and weapons.
Sounds fishy to me.
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If the school is wearing chest protectors don't expect them to respect a body shot with the hand.


Sounds fishy to me.
No he has a 5th dan in Judo and 4th dan in Aikido. The grandmaster has a higher belt in Aikido and Judo, forgot which degree though. Why you saying it sounds fishy if you dont know anything about the place?
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Maybe it's just the way you phrased it but it sounds off to me. Are you already that far advanced in TKD that they're moving you on to Judo and Aikido? What are Kung Fu pressure points and where did they learn them? What weapons? The better schools that I've seen focus more and those that offer alot tend to also nickle and dime the student for additional training. I'm probably wrong but that's just my experience.

They have a website?
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they emphasis kung fu

there are pressure points in kung fu

weapons like nunchuacs or however you spell them and spears

i dont know if all the weapons are chinese style though

the site is down right now i think

the place is Van Binh Self Defense Academy

as for the question of how good my TKD skills are, well.....

ill post clips of my sparring matches in couple months
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Dear Sir,

May I make a few inquiries...

1. What system of Taekwon-Do is taught at your dojang (if this question posses a problem please state the pattern set used).

2. What is your gup or dan grade

3. Who is the chief instructor or Kwanjang-nim of your dojang

4. Why are you not certain of the name of your dojang

By answering these simple questions you will allow me to better understand you training and instruction

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I go to royal TKD Academy ITF and we do serious tranning Everyday

And Punches do work in a fight thats how I beat people O really dont kick

I do more punches


P.S if you dont like TKD Then
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Dear Sir,

May I make a few inquiries...

1. What system of Taekwon-Do is taught at your dojang (if this question posses a problem please state the pattern set used).

2. What is your gup or dan grade

3. Who is the chief instructor or Kwanjang-nim of your dojang

4. Why are you not certain of the name of your dojang

By answering these simple questions you will allow me to better understand you training and instruction

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i know the place of my dojang not the site read it again please
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I go to royal TKD Academy ITF and we do serious tranning Everyday

And Punches do work in a fight thats how I beat people O really dont kick

I do more punches


P.S if you dont like TKD Then
Sounds like you need to start at white belt again. Isn't that were they teach you self-discipline and control? Or maybe you are a 30 yr old white belt.
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Sir,

I believe I asked multiple questions, yet you only answered one...before I assume you are dodging my other questions would you care to address any of the other questions.

Or are you a "thirty year old white belt"...no disrespect to the 30 year old white belt. At least they have chosen to learn...more than just running their mouth.

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I believe I asked multiple questions, yet you only answered one...before I assume you are dodging my other questions would you care to address any of the other questions.

Or are you a "thirty year old white belt"...no disrespect to the 30 year old white belt. At least they have chosen to learn...more than just running their mouth.

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Sorry I didn't answer all of them, I didn't have time. I apologize sir for the mistake. As for my instructor, that would be Master Hanh and Grandmaster Van Binh. My rank is brown belt, but that will be black in 3 months. I believe you didn't fully understand what I was saying about TKD King. This he/she has been the one mouthing off with his posts. Please chek calling all wtf fighters. I'm not a thirty year old white belt, i'm a 15 year old brown belt. I made this assumption due to his behavior. I hope this helps, and doesn't leave you befuddled.


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I don't think I answered all your questions, pleae direct them to me again. Thank you
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I'm in ITF if you asked that.
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I'm a little surprised if you aren't using your hands at Van Binh's. GM Van Binh is my teacher's teacher, and we work with our hands a lot while sparring, as will anyone doing a more "old school" TKD. We also incorporate a little Aikido training in our curriculum. Our school does not teach the hands-dangling-uselessly-at-the-sides style of "sport sparring", and although I've never been to the school, I assume that GM Van Binh's school doesn't either. GM Van Binh was a Vietnamese national champion and is a 9th Dan in TKD. He is chairman of ITF's Master's Promotion Committee.
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Hey Buddy ,

You referenced holding the rank of 1st kup...is it possible that you will soon begin incorporating joint destruction, releases, and takedowns in you Ho Sin Sul training...could this be the "learning Aikido and Judo" you spoke of in your previous post.

If so, this makes perfectly good since. It did however sound as if you were going to learn complete new systems...and before completeing your basic education in TKD. At least that is how I understood the previous post.

P.S. I would have thought GM Van Bien would use the red belt as opposed to brown??? Doesn't realy matter!

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