doubleouch

Elbow, that sounds like a good progression. Most schools I've seen never get beyond rote memorization of techniques.

brokenelbow

It is a good progression that lets the student really learn and retain things, but takes longer. Memorization of self defense techniques makes it easier to set up belt tests which is what alot of schools are about. When you got to use more of what you knew in sparring it was always ugly when the techniques were used. The better guys never fished for the techniques, they'd be sparring and then suddenly one would execute a series of descisive techniques that looked to come out of nowhere. The TKD school didn't look the same as the schools do now, and I think it was the idea of keeping all of the techniques in the art.

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Spookey

Dear all,

First and foremost Ho Sin Sul is defind as self defense. Therefore all techniques of martial arts are hosin-sul if used for that purpose. Even running can be viewed as hosin-sul if used to defend ones self.

One step sparring is integral in our hosin-sul training. It teaches valuable components in a traditional, uniform, easy to learn manor. How do these "static" exercises assist in learning to defend ones self? Well, look at it realistically. The most common application of one-step is against a right punch. The majority of human beings the world over are right handed, and statistically, the attack most commonly incountered will be a simple strong hand punch; therefore, the one step training is preperation for the single most likely tactic you will incounter during an assault...Right Punch

Now, what is commonly viewed as hosin-sul (releases, locks, and throws) are another portion often under emphasized. They are the technique one must rely on in the event that the attacker is able to close the distance between you and himself. Now, these techniques should not be practiced against cooperative opponents, but rather against the biggest strongest assistant available. Why, attackers do not cooperate and will possily impose there size against you. Also, a throw that will work on a stationary opponent will not necessarily work on a charging opponent. It is therefore imperative that one trains accordingly.

On to knife defense...knife defense, whether having their basis in hapkido, daito-ryu jujitsu, or any other art, are generally useless at full speed unless accessible by accident. Try grabbing the wrist of a man with a knife (or alternate rubber knife, short dowel, ect.) while he thrusts and withdraws at full speed...not easy to do and boarderline impossible. Now, work on attacking with distance and timing. If he draws the knife back overhead as to slash, would you charge for his arm (placing your face, neck, and torso that much closer to the blade), or would you be better suited attacking the elbow joint and forearm of the attacking arm with your foot (keeping distance between the blade and your vital organs)?

These are just a few descriptions of Hosin-Sul training and some of the problems (irrational methodology) I have incountered during my observations!

Please feel free to both make responces and offer critisisms of this post!

TAEKWON!
Spookey

brokenelbow

Personally, I don't see the point of traditional one steps past yellow belt. The punch most encountered in the US is a wild haymaker followed by another wild haymaker followed by another wild haymaker, etc. I also don't think one steps teach a person how to read an opponent. When I do one steps now it may be a front punch, a reverse punch, a kick, two haymakers and a kick, or any other kind of attack. We practice one steps as one package of techniques not a single front punch. This is a training preference but I've seen better results in transferring the techniques at least to sparring this way.

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The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

Damnit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

DM