Spookey

Dear All,

I am inquiring as to the way your dojang trains Hosin-sul. How much class time is spent on hosin-sul. What type of application training do you do. What rank begins training it's techniques, and at what rank does your dojang require hosin-sul for testing.

Tell me what you will, methodology of technique, training, application, basis of cirricullum, ect.

I will not give my interpretation/definition of Hosin-sul, or the training of our dojang until others have had the first opportunity. Also, to some of my Old School practitioners, I know some of my questions are like oxymorons...but you'll know why!

May I ask "BullDog" and "Os" to hold off and let the others answer first...I especially want to here from StudioBuddy and some of the other youngsters!

TAEKWON!
Spookey
Bateman Taekwon-Do Oh Do Kwan

brokenelbow

You're up to something and I think I know what.

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ajs1976

I had to use google to figure out what Ho Sin Sul was. From the examples I read about, it sounds like we do something similiar in class, but it has a different name.

Each belt has 3 onesteps and 3 grabbing techiques. I think black belt has 4.

Spookey

Care to elaborate on how you train the one steps and grabs...and what style you study, and what do you call it?


Spookey

ajs1976

I was told the one steps and grabbing techniques are Hapkido techniques, but from the descriptions I read on the web of what other schools do for Ho Sin Sul, they sound like the same thing.

Normally class follows the structure of Warmups, Kicking Drills, Forms, One steps, Grabbing techniques, and then whatever the master thinks we need extra work on.

I'm only a yellow belt, so I have only practiced 6 of each, but I have seen a number of others. The one steps are the oponent throws a punch and you block and counter attack. The early grabbing tech. are someone grabs your wrist(s) or clothing and you break free and then run away. After the first couple, they start to include counter attack. The higher the belt, the more complex and/or devasting the combinations become. They can include pressure point attacks, joint locks, and take downs.

The time we spend on the Hapkido tech. is my favorite part of TKD class.

Studiobuddy

I quit, I've been to over 6 schools in my life. One in Florida when I was a super small youngster. Then to Cho's TKD on Westhimer, then to Mr. Lee Hwa Rang Tigers, then to Kim Soo Karate (for like a day), then to some ATA dude for 6 months ( most rigerous exercises ever!), then to Van Binh. The only school that taught hapkido and judo concept's was Master Lee's. Ive done ATA WTF ITF. I have learned forms from the different federations, and those codes you gotta remember. They all got mixed up in my brain, so I dont know any of this Hol Su or w/e it's called. The best master I had was Master Cho, his brother is that worlds famous TKD guy with the last name Cho. Anyways, I grew up around TKD...my mom's friends some of them owned TKD school's. I basically went to dojangs everyday. Though my TKD and other TMA vocabulary is very limited. I wish to remember what I did. I can still count to 10 in KOREAN!! I even been to Korean school, i'm half korean and american.

Spookey

Dear sir,

May ask what rank you hold....didnt you say 6th Gup? Not do sure, anyhow, ask Mr. Van Bihn, ad I'm sure he can answer the vocabulary question. Might I ask how you have managed to train at so many schools and not remember the names of the hyungs, ect.

You might just be a young gup with little continuous experience do to frequent relocation.

Anyhow, please verify your rank (or ranks if various)...

Taekwon!
Spookey

IPON

Why??? You stsated that you were only a feww months from the BB promotion

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Studiobuddy

Didn't feel true anymore, all they did was kick basically, the hand techniques done were just dumb. I still hold a brown belt, I forget because I take like a year or 2 between schools.

Spookey

Dear all,

please assist this thread by attempting to stay on topic....

TAEKWON!
Spookey

IPON

Spookey, my apologies if that was directed at me...I actually thought I was helping with your questions.

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Spookey

Dear Sir,


No problems...

doubleouch

I've seen it trained at many schools.Some call it Ho Sin Sool, some call it Hapkido, some call it self defense. It is usually trained badly. Always with cooperative training partner and no resistance. The techniques are fine, but the training methods are awful.

brokenelbow

In the glory days of my old TKD school it was trained as soon as you got the basics down. Then you were taught how to break holds, how to throw and where to target your stikes and kicks. Once you had that you were exposed to various attacks and strategies and tactics against them. As time went by it gets more free form with one taking the role of defender and the other attacker. Finally once you got good control over the techniques and you could use the techniques in sparring. It was never self defense technique 1, technique 2, etc, it was more free form. You really learned how to respond rather than look up the appropriate technique in your head. Those days are gone in that school but the karate school that I now go to does almost the samething.

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The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

Damnit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

DM

Spookey

Dear all,

This thread did not develope quite as anticipated...however, I am glad to know that a few TKD students have at least now done enough research to know what "Ho Sin Sul" means!

Many thanks to BrokenElbow for the latest reply as well as all others. Now, I would love to here from BULLDOG and Mr. OSO!

Best Wishes,
Spookey
TAEKWON!