Whispers

Was just wondering how many people out there do full contact sparring with grappling? Those of you that do, how often? Do you cross train with other arts or is it all Tae Kwon Do?


Thanks in advance for any responses.

Spookey

Dear Sir,

First I wish to express the fact that we teach the TKD of Gen. Choi w/ joint locks and takedowns...

We do eclectic sparring often among the established ranks, heavy contact, throw if you can, and either immediately lock, or show ablity to strike cleanly.

However, we do not continue to roll on the groung attempting to gain position. Just our methodology!

TAEKWON!
Spookey

__________________
Taekwon-Do Oh Do Kwan - Chang Han Family

Whispers

Dear Mr. Spookey
I too learn TKD with joint locks and takedowns, but i wanted to know how many other people learn it that way and how many others learned TKD without these techniques and had to incorporate them from other arts.
Thank you for your reply.

p.s. - do you own your own school?

Spookey

Wispers,


I am the senior student of a small private club. Our chief instructor (and my Father) was an Oh Do Kwan instructor and later an ITF instructor. Having previously had an open to the public dojang, he has determined that he can better promote and preserve our art without the necessity of marketing and commercializing things. Also, since we are a no fee, private club, we have greater ability to raise the standards...We can teach the original curricullum without need for extravagance. We do not require funds to operate, therefore there is no rush to testing (fees), and no financial fear of loosing students (finance) because of stiff requirements, long advancements, and high standards!

We utilize step sparring, non-contact free sparring, Hosin-sul, breaking, and the Chang Hon hyungs (25...24 current ITF + KoDang).

If ever I may be of assistance, please feel free to call upon me!

TAEKWON!
Spookey

__________________
Taekwon-Do Oh Do Kwan - Chang Han Family

TKDguy

my school incorperates the same joint locks and takedowns but we do sometimes fight for position on the floor but this is only when we have the instructor who also fights nhb.

bodhisattva

TKDGuy: It's really great you guys fight for position on the floor. That is _necessary_ if you are practicing with the goal of developing the ability to defend yourself.

A person can't always keep from going to the ground. It's a simple fact. Once you find yourself there, you better have some long hours on the mat, because it isn't anything like standup fighting. Don't be a duck out of water, friend.
I bet you guys have very realistic sparring instead of the traditional tae kwon do stuff..I'm going to guess, that if your teachers have NHB experience, that your school doesn't look very much like a standard, run-of-the-mill TKD school at all? That's pretty neat. I don't think I've personally encountered that.

__________________

St. Louis MMA Training Club - MMA Boxing / Clinch / Submission Grappling / Wrestling Gym

Portland MMA Training Club: MMA Boxing / Brazilian Jiu Jitsu / Greco Roman Wrestling

sirmattu

my tae kwon do school doesnt include groundfighting, takedowns, locks......... yeah you get the picture. i had to start taking another martial art to add those techniques

MAfans

I started praticing taekwondo since November and I still have not learn a single block yet and I don't see the senior student praticing grappling, joint lock or take down. I think that my school is more focus on competitions, but I think that my school is still a great school and I'm always learning new stuff and above everything, I have a lot of fun. Oh yeah, I have a question, when do u guyz started to learn poomse?? At my school, they start at BB.

Thx
MAFAns

sirmattu

At my school we do palgyes, but we start learning then at first white. but if you school is a competition type school, maybe poomse's arent that big of a deal.

Whispers

Just go full contact out of class, it'll work about as well. I sent a set of very open rules to some friends for how to spar heavy and grapple and what not. They started doing it outside of class. Their instructor noticed a change in their fighting ability and choice of techniques immediately and was impressed. He assumed they started practicing more.

Spookey

Dear Sir,

We have a few different rule sets. They range from general non (light) contact through full contact with throws and submissions.

Also, we incorporate many techniques of Judo and the practice of randori. General Choi was openly an advocate of visiting other dojangs and schools. This practice allows students to find unique techniques that are good for the user, also it allows them to see why we do what we do!

Look for upcomming posts concerning sparring rules and how these exercises are utilized at the various ranks!

TAEKWON!
SpOOkeY

__________________
Taekwon-Do Oh Do Kwan - Chang Han Family

cary

hi, i'm going to be taking martial arts soon, and i have always been interested in learning it. i've learned a bunch of things on my own just by messing around, or playing with my bros. i basically know more than your average joe. now, i've been in street fights, and of course, got beaten. the kind of guys i've fought are the kind that do nothing but swing at the head relentlessly. and i know that means endless openings for me, but all i ever do is block. i know that offense is the best defense, but i don't know if it's fear, or just not wanting to hurt the guy. how should i fix this problem?

eXcessiveForce

I my school we teach many different types of sparring.

Many times with no restrictions

We have had grappling for a long time. But currently we incorporated a BJJ school into our facility to advance our abilities.

We also use locks, throws and destructions

We also do armed v.s unarmed and armed vs. armed sparring both stand up and on the ground.

This is only done at black belt level though

__________________
eXcessiveFORCE.

If you must use force, make it excessive.

www.b-prime.com
A success and achievement community

Whispers

Practice. You're not used to the idea of being attacked or attacking the other person. You don't have the ability to focus on the opponent yet and block out fear and toher emotions. Basicly the adreneline hits your systema nd all higher thought locks up and you act on subconscious ideas. You're probubly a non-agressive person, you just reflexively try to block. I used to have the same problem. In addition to martial-arts training, i suggest getting one of your brothers or a friend (don't need to limit yourself to just one mind you), and doing some realistic sparring out side of class. It gives you a chance to apply your techniques in a high stress environment and see what you need to work on. It's also the only way to train out the effects of adreneline rush.

cary

thanks for the help, whispers, but just one more question. since tae kwon do is what i'll be learning, what kind of stretches should i do, and for how long and how often to be able to get the height i need? thanks in advance!