DVSJ

Recently I read some history on this ancient art and saw some techniques on it.It's interesting to me and seems the art can be very useful on the street.Does anyone have any experience or opinion on Hwa Rang Do..?

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Korean Warrior

I have trainned and will be going back to training in hwa rang do what do you want to know about art

DVSJ

Finally...someone decided to respond....and thanks alot,I appreciate it.Well,I really don't know where to begin but I wouldn't mind absorbing any knowledge you would like to share.I have a few tapes and a book on the art so I'm familiar with the history and some basics.I was wondering just how accurate is the history which is written in the book and why some people in this forum don't think much of this martial art. I'm just a novice and I'm interested in all martial arts (mostly their history).Personally,from just the tapes I've watched,some of the techniques look very practical and street effective...have you ever had to apply your style to defend yourself in a real situation.I'm aware of "it depends on the individual" (dedication,abilities,etc.),but what is your opinion on the effectiveness of Hwa Rang Do in a streetfight,self-defense,competitions,etc.Please feel free to share any of your own experiences or other practitioners encounters...

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Korean Warrior

Here are some links that might help you on your way
http://www.hwarangdo.com/hrd1.htm
http://www.hwarangdo.com/hrd2.htm
http://www.hwarangdo.com/hwarang.htm
http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/...istory/map.htm
http://www.hwarangdo.com/philosophy.htm
To answer your questions about how useful the art is
We have had instructors train the U.S.M.C. the army rangers and the navy seals.
During Viet nam one of our 7th degree black belts trained the korean ROK marines( and if you don't know who those men are the are the korean special ops guy's)
We have over 4000 techniques and 108 weapons that we train with.
And I have had to use my training everyday mostly the mental part of the training. Because I have had to deal with a lot of dumb people in my life.
And insted of fighting them I out thought them.

We do have everything that a person who want to train in a real art wants.
We have:
Nae Gong - Internal Power
Is the area of study which involves developing one's internal energy, or Ki power, through meditation and breathing exercises. Through both passive (um) and active (yang) methods an individual can enhance his or her physical and mental abilities, as well as one's healing capacity.


Wae Gong - External Power
Is the development of the physical combat skills of the system. This takes the form of over 4,000 offensive and defensive techniques, 365 kicking combinations in both hard/linear and soft/circular movements. The achievement of complete physical control. These physical skills are focused on the Three Stages of Fighting:
1. Standing with Distance : The first stage of fighting occurs when two or more opponents are standing within arm/leg range. This is where we apply various kicking and punching combinations.
2. In-close and standing : Once you break the perimeter of your opponent, you are now inside. In-fighting incorporates the use of joint manipulation, pressure points, takedowns, and throws.
3. On the ground, grappling : Once a takedown has been applied, you are now on the ground. Ground fighting utilizes the use of choking, pressure points, and joint manipulation to make your opponent surrender.


Shin Gong - Mental Power
This category entails the development of mental concentration and alertness through a disciplined regiment of meditation, geared to enhancing greater focus. Also included is the study of the philosophy of the martial way in order to apply its principles to everyday life.


Moo Gi Gong - Weapon Power
The development and mastery of external objects. There are over 108 different weapons found within Hwa Rang Do, and by learning these various weapon systems, the practitioner can most effectively utilize any object as a weapon as the situation demands.

Nae Gong - Internal Power
Is the area of study which involves developing one's internal energy, or Ki power, through meditation and breathing exercises. Through both passive (um) and active (yang) methods an individual can enhance his or her physical and mental abilities, as well as one's healing capacity.


Wae Gong - External Power
Is the development of the physical combat skills of the system. This takes the form of over 4,000 offensive and defensive techniques, 365 kicking combinations in both hard/linear and soft/circular movements. The achievement of complete physical control. These physical skills are focused on the Three Stages of Fighting:
1. Standing with Distance : The first stage of fighting occurs when two or more opponents are standing within arm/leg range. This is where we apply various kicking and punching combinations.
2. In-close and standing : Once you break the perimeter of your opponent, you are now inside. In-fighting incorporates the use of joint manipulation, pressure points, takedowns, and throws.
3. On the ground, grappling : Once a takedown has been applied, you are now on the ground. Ground fighting utilizes the use of choking, pressure points, and joint manipulation to make your opponent surrender.


Shin Gong - Mental Power
This category entails the development of mental concentration and alertness through a disciplined regiment of meditation, geared to enhancing greater focus. Also included is the study of the philosophy of the martial way in order to apply its principles to everyday life.


Moo Gi Gong - Weapon Power
The development and mastery of external objects. There are over 108 different weapons found within Hwa Rang Do, and by learning these various weapon systems, the practitioner can most effectively utilize any object as a weapon as the situation demands.

I hope this helps you in your understanding of the art.

DVSJ

Thank you for your efforts to enlighten my ignorance of your style...I have been to those websites before except for one...thanks ,anyway.I'm intrigued with this art...I continue to incorporate a technique here and there in some of my practices...only from the book and 3 tapes.I tend to buy the other volumes when I feel I'm ready to move on.I'm too far away to travel to LA to learn directly from the GM and sons...nothing here in Vegas.If it's not too personal to ask,where do you train and how long have you trained in Hwa Rang Do?I like how you treat dumb people...outhinking your opponent usually is the smell of victory.

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brokenelbow

Which black belt was that?

Here's another view of HRD.

http://www.hwarang.org/Contemporary.html
http://www.hwarang.org/Personal.html

Good art, weird politics.

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Korean Warrior

The politices that you speak of are from a man that was kick out of hwa rang do, for doing way to many bad thing such as lying to the public.
I feel however that it is not my place to speek on such matters. Simply because I was not there when it happen. And it is between the two parties at hand.
I will say this however, politics have f---ed up many a good many martial art. And I chose not to be a part of that. Besides martial arts is a personal journey that one takes and makes apart of there own.

And too answer your question about the man that trained the ROK marines. I can not remember at this time but I will ask my SaBumNim and find out for you. And will relay the info a.s.p.

I am sorry I could not have been more help.

brokenelbow

Thanks for looking into the name for me. I know some guys who trained in some HRD in the mid 70's and they liked it.

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The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

Damnit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

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BoarSpear

Any of this politics youre discussing over Mike?

brokenelbow

Echanis is a story unto himself that goes well beyond HRD politics. Bad karma. The politics was with Bob Duggan and all. I've always been impressed by the HRD people that I've met and seen even if they were all thrown out.

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The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

Damnit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

DM

BoarSpear

Ah.. I heard a little about that one as well. Great art but ugly politics, the whole thing with Mike sucked.. On the upside the Men Of Technique are one of the best examples of a warrior mentality.