The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-16-2005, 08:53 AM

"The power we learn is awesome, and it carries withit an awesome responsibility wich cannot be taken lightly. Remember, if you harm someone, you will have to answer for it-and live with what you have done."

Taekwondo Master Richard Chun

pstevens · 12-16-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shaolin-warrior

"The power we learn is awesome, and it carries withit an awesome responsibility wich cannot be taken lightly. Remember, if you harm someone, you will have to answer for it-and live with what you have done."

Taekwondo Master Richard Chun

Don't worry, with TKD at your disposal, you won't have to worry about hurting too many people.

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-16-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pstevens

Don't worry, with TKD at your disposal, you won't have to worry about hurting too many people.

I am not a tkd practitioner, but still feel that this is valuable advice.

kuk sool won · 12-16-2005, 12:26 PM

pstevens, please shut up about the effects of TKD, its effective just the same as any other art but the major factor is something has been repeated countless times on this website and it is that it is the person and not the art that makes a good MA practioner

foofies · 01-08-2006, 04:20 PM

Yah it did. It made me calmer, friendier, and it made my brain works insted of my emoticon. now when i hear crap from some1 i dont get that mad or anything.
meditation or to Zen is a good thing to do along with MA. Meditation will help you to:

1.increase in patience, compassion, and other virtues and morals or the understanding of them
2.Feelings of calm or peace, and/or moments of great joy
some Dojos teach zen to their student, but unfortunately most of the students doesnt know its vaule and the true meaning of Zen.

taoistscholar · 01-08-2006, 10:09 PM

Martal arts has steered me off the road of fighting and onto the much funner path to enlightment.

Tom Yum · 01-24-2006, 04:29 PM

Over 76% of respondents claim that martial arts training has had a positive effect on their emotional calmness.

Coorelation isn't causation.

What are the actual mechanisms at play - mental/physical? Does physical fitness and self-discipline improve the mind?

Tant01 · 01-25-2006, 04:06 PM

Knowing that you can kill someone with your hands doesn't make you calmer or more enlightened... It's knowing that there is always going to be someone bigger stronger and better armed out there.

Tom Yum · 01-25-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tant01

Knowing that you can kill someone with your hands doesn't make you calmer or more enlightened... It's knowing that there is always going to be someone bigger stronger and better armed out there.

I'm talking about general mental calmness. The same kind of mental calmness you get from golf or another solo sport activity.

Tant01 · 01-25-2006, 06:28 PM

Yes, I found Zen on big rocks! As solo sports go, rock climbing is still up there on my list... It's hard to describe the peace after you get to the top.

It's like winning a fight against gravity. Climbers are artists in their own right.

WildWest. · 09-02-2006, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tant01

Knowing that you can kill someone with your hands doesn't make you calmer or more enlightened... It's knowing that there is always going to be someone bigger stronger and better armed out there.

Yes! This is very true. MA's have made me realise my own mortality. When I first started as a teenager I was hoping people would push me into a fight so I could use what I'd learnt. Talk about inexperience, fortunately I got that beaten out of me doing MT sparring.
The reality is, and I'm not saying I've reached this level, is that you should be able to turn on your aggression when required to and turn it off just as quickly. This is not easy to do if you've been ambushed walking to your car etc. However, I'm definitely a calmer person now.

Fluffy · 10-14-2006, 10:03 PM

None of the above, I don't remember much before my training started.

Tom Yum · 10-15-2006, 04:23 PM

Good thing that the poll is still up.

Update: Looks like 82% of respondents found MA to be atleast somewhat beneficial on their mood/personality.

kuk sool won · 10-15-2006, 04:34 PM

I expected it to be but not by this sort of margin

WildWest. · 10-15-2006, 08:37 PM

To the 7% that made you more aggressive, I suggest you look at the attitude of your club and your attitude in general because it's piss poor.

MA's should channel your aggression/anger/hostility and turn it into positive focused energy. I suppose you are the type of people that like to hurt their classmates in sparring or push submission holds too far etc just to make them fel better about themselves.

If you can't control youself then don't do MA's.....we don't want you.

View Poll Results: Has Martial arts made you a more calmer, mellow person?
Yes	31	53.45%
A little	17	29.31%
Not at all	6	10.34%
Its made me more agressive!	4	6.90%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

12-16-2005, 12:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
kuk sool won Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 570 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	pstevens, please shut up about the effects of TKD, its effective just the same as any other art but the major factor is something has been repeated countless times on this website and it is that it is the person and not the art that makes a good MA practioner __________________ '...You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist...'

01-08-2006, 04:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
foofies Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middel of no where Posts: 38 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yah it did. It made me calmer, friendier, and it made my brain works insted of my emoticon. now when i hear crap from some1 i dont get that mad or anything. meditation or to Zen is a good thing to do along with MA. Meditation will help you to: 1.increase in patience, compassion, and other virtues and morals or the understanding of them 2.Feelings of calm or peace, and/or moments of great joy some Dojos teach zen to their student, but unfortunately most of the students doesnt know its vaule and the true meaning of Zen. __________________ I'm in desperate need for a decent Dojo to continue my MA training

01-24-2006, 04:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Interpretation of Results Over 76% of respondents claim that martial arts training has had a positive effect on their emotional calmness. Coorelation isn't causation. What are the actual mechanisms at play - mental/physical? Does physical fitness and self-discipline improve the mind?

01-25-2006, 04:06 PM	#23 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,935 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	Knowing that you can kill someone with your hands doesn't make you calmer or more enlightened... It's knowing that there is always going to be someone bigger stronger and better armed out there. __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

12-16-2005, 08:53 AM	#16 (permalink)
shaolin-warrior Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 480 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"The power we learn is awesome, and it carries withit an awesome responsibility wich cannot be taken lightly. Remember, if you harm someone, you will have to answer for it-and live with what you have done." Taekwondo Master Richard Chun

01-08-2006, 10:09 PM	#21 (permalink)
taoistscholar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Martal arts has steered me off the road of fighting and onto the much funner path to enlightment.

01-25-2006, 06:28 PM	#25 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,935 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	Yes, I found Zen on big rocks! As solo sports go, rock climbing is still up there on my list... It's hard to describe the peace after you get to the top. It's like winning a fight against gravity. Climbers are artists in their own right. __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

10-14-2006, 10:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
Fluffy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 24 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	None of the above, I don't remember much before my training started. __________________ Master Adam D. Huntley www.SnoTKD.com

10-15-2006, 04:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Good thing that the poll is still up. Update: Looks like 82% of respondents found MA to be atleast somewhat beneficial on their mood/personality.

10-15-2006, 04:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
kuk sool won Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 570 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I expected it to be but not by this sort of margin __________________ '...You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist...'

10-15-2006, 08:37 PM	#30 (permalink)
WildWest. Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 684 Groans: 2 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	To the 7% that made you more aggressive, I suggest you look at the attitude of your club and your attitude in general because it's piss poor. MA's should channel your aggression/anger/hostility and turn it into positive focused energy. I suppose you are the type of people that like to hurt their classmates in sparring or push submission holds too far etc just to make them fel better about themselves. If you can't control youself then don't do MA's.....we don't want you. __________________ "Only one of us knows illegal ninja moves from the government"

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