DickHardman

darrianation

Yah, just like that.

Running themes:

• Get close
• Multiple attackers
• Attacks form the flanks and rear
• The rapid middle linebacker bull rush
• The sewing machine action
• Both hands active in the fight (not just the knife hand)
• Straight forward no frills ugly violence
• Brutal , aggressive, and unforgiving

__________________
In hills, as well as in villages and cities, hazards and predators find those who walk backwards.- Ezekiel Sanchez

Garland

Is there a distinction between a well-trained FMA attacker with intent and that of, say, a prison shanker?

It appears to me from what little I've seen that most knife based FMA's (Sayoc, Atienza, and Pekiti/Dekiti Tirsia) both consider thrusting to be the primary offensive movement, especially when the goal is to kill the opponent.

Naturally, the FMA guy is going to probably have better fluidity in linking up strikes, and be much more accurate in poking into things like arteries and vital organs...

But in a situation wherein a Kali guy really wanted to take somebody out quick in a face to face situation... don't you think that sewing machine mechanics would come out?

What happened with the bouncer- one deep cut along the inside of the thigh? Stylish and impressive, but it goes against what I think would be the more natural movement.

I guess it would also depend upon the weapon...if you have an ice pick type weapon, you're going to use it differently than a carpet knife type weapon.

So wouldn't it be a function of the situation, and the tools given that would determine the nature of the attack...with the only advantage to the kali guy being a knowledge of anatomy and better angulation?

I guess it's a moot point...whoever's at the other end is going to the er or the morgue in either case.

__________________
I kick you in da neck!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBHLrpn07G4
http://www.break.com/movies/englishf.html

homo homini lupus

Komm Susser Todd.

No, no...no no no...whatever you are drinking, you need much, much more...and then to sleep. - jubaji

eXcessiveForce

I would think the big difference between the two would be in retention and tactics.

I think the Kali person would be more likely to change tactics depending on how the attack progressed, more so than the con and also be more aware of possibly losing his weapon due to resistance.

But that is just speculation.

__________________
eXcessiveFORCE.

If you must use force, make it excessive.

darrianation

I think the biggest difference between the criminal attacker and the Kali guy is that the kali guy practices his craft in the gym and has in all likelihood never used it in a real world encounter and the criminal attacker practices his craft in the streets (or prison yards) likely having used it many times in life or death encounter.

The Kali guy may have more options and refined skills but the criminal has real world experience on his side and a ruthless mindset of cold blooded murder.

As Garland was saying either way they are both formable opponents. Just immagine what a nightmare a kali expert criminal would be?

__________________
In hills, as well as in villages and cities, hazards and predators find those who walk backwards.- Ezekiel Sanchez