bowing in - Page 2

wsdddoa012 · 07-03-2007, 07:59 PM

In Martial Arts bowing isnt just a oriental sign of respect, it's much like we do in the United States with shaking hands. Alot of people in the oriental culture nowdays shake hands, instead of bowing towards eachother. Does that mean they've adopted OUR way of respect?? NO.. Bowing is just a sign of respect. If done properly that is. I've seen wayy to many martial arts abuse the bow by dipping there heads up and down then proceeding to whatever it is they were doing.

Many cultures abrace the bow and different signs of respect. Some cultures they scream as a sign of respect towards eachother, others they'll actually make physical contact (no I dont mean handshakes) as a sign of respect. It all depends on the culture.

But I do think the bow should be emphasized and practiced properly... Otherwise and truthfully 90% of all arts are disgracing eachother in disrespect by not bowing properly.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RESPECT FOR EACHOTHER.....

call me old fashion... but that's my opinion

UPdate* I shouldn've used eastern cultures instead of oriental, that's my mistake and I apologize. In any case EVERY culture has a way of addressing respect towards eachother. Bowing is just one in a hundred ways.

jubaji · 07-04-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wsdddoa012

Alot of people in the oriental culture nowdays

??????????????????????

There's no such thing.

wsdddoa012 · 07-04-2007, 02:55 AM

Alot of people in the oriental culture meaning a majority.... And YES there is such a thing.... :\

Bowing, shaking of hands, eye contact, rituals, slapping faces lol, all signs of respects in different cultures.

jubaji · 07-04-2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wsdddoa012

Alot of people in the oriental culture meaning a majority.... And YES there is such a thing....

And just where is this country called 'Orient'?

The_Judo_Jibboo · 07-04-2007, 11:06 PM

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And just where is this country called 'Orient'?

everywhere that's not the Occident

wsdddoa012 · 07-05-2007, 05:30 AM

Orient: means asian... or alien whichever you prefer..

jubaji · 07-05-2007, 09:57 AM

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wsdddoa012 · 07-05-2007, 01:29 PM

What is your point then? Cause if you have a point you really haven't given your opinion to the forum, other then windy short comings. Just come out and EXPLAIN to us what your opinion is other then hiding in a bunch of short sentences and childish forthcomings.

jubaji · 07-05-2007, 02:02 PM

If you're too stupid to figure it out, then you have made the point for me (again).

The_Judo_Jibboo · 07-05-2007, 02:38 PM

the point, Mike, is that it's not the most PC term. to be fair it's not terribly offensive (unless you're using it as a noun to refer to an individual as "an Oriental") but it's not the preferred parlance.

and actually oriental literally just means "eastern," so next time that would be a suitable replacement

jubaji · 07-05-2007, 02:51 PM

But wait, there's more...

The_Judo_Jibboo · 07-05-2007, 03:09 PM

i thought i was so clever as to know the mind of jubaji... forgive the impudence, it would appear my instruction is incomplete

wsdddoa012 · 07-05-2007, 06:19 PM

How old are you jubaji... 10? cause if your making a point then your not coming across clear.

jubaji · 07-05-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wsdddoa012

How old are you jubaji... 10? cause if your making a point then your not coming across clear.

'clearly'

You might not want to go the "how old are you?" route when all you've done here is demonstrate how shit-eatin' ignorant you are, kid.

wsdddoa012 · 07-06-2007, 02:25 AM

WHOA foul language, I didn't know that was allowed. Man you obviously have some issues so until you can Grow Up and talk like an adult, I will discontinue this conversation. Your ignorance is overwhelming and funny.

My apologizes to everyone in the forum for having to witness this. Some people I guess you just can't talk to in a mature fashion. Even if you do make a mistake on a point taken.

View Poll Results: How often do you think students should bow in?
it's just formality and really unnecessary.	6	18.75%
in large groups and at public gatherings, just out of tradition.	2	6.25%
sets the tone at the beginning and end of class or training sessions	14	43.75%
before and after each technique or class, large or small, formal or informal	10	31.25%
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07-03-2007, 07:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
wsdddoa012 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 88	response In Martial Arts bowing isnt just a oriental sign of respect, it's much like we do in the United States with shaking hands. Alot of people in the oriental culture nowdays shake hands, instead of bowing towards eachother. Does that mean they've adopted OUR way of respect?? NO.. Bowing is just a sign of respect. If done properly that is. I've seen wayy to many martial arts abuse the bow by dipping there heads up and down then proceeding to whatever it is they were doing. Many cultures abrace the bow and different signs of respect. Some cultures they scream as a sign of respect towards eachother, others they'll actually make physical contact (no I dont mean handshakes) as a sign of respect. It all depends on the culture. But I do think the bow should be emphasized and practiced properly... Otherwise and truthfully 90% of all arts are disgracing eachother in disrespect by not bowing properly. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RESPECT FOR EACHOTHER..... call me old fashion... but that's my opinion UPdate* I shouldn've used eastern cultures instead of oriental, that's my mistake and I apologize. In any case EVERY culture has a way of addressing respect towards eachother. Bowing is just one in a hundred ways. __________________ Mike Senior Chief Instructor

07-04-2007, 02:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
wsdddoa012 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 88	response Alot of people in the oriental culture meaning a majority.... And YES there is such a thing.... :\ Bowing, shaking of hands, eye contact, rituals, slapping faces lol, all signs of respects in different cultures. __________________ Mike Senior Chief Instructor

07-05-2007, 05:30 AM	#21 (permalink)
wsdddoa012 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 88	response Orient: means asian... or alien whichever you prefer.. __________________ Mike Senior Chief Instructor

07-05-2007, 09:57 AM	#22 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,110	still missing the point? .......................................................... __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

07-05-2007, 01:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
wsdddoa012 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 88	response What is your point then? Cause if you have a point you really haven't given your opinion to the forum, other then windy short comings. Just come out and EXPLAIN to us what your opinion is other then hiding in a bunch of short sentences and childish forthcomings. __________________ Mike Senior Chief Instructor

07-05-2007, 02:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,110	If you're too stupid to figure it out, then you have made the point for me (again). __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

07-05-2007, 02:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
The_Judo_Jibboo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 395	the point, Mike, is that it's not the most PC term. to be fair it's not terribly offensive (unless you're using it as a noun to refer to an individual as "an Oriental") but it's not the preferred parlance. and actually oriental literally just means "eastern," so next time that would be a suitable replacement __________________ "When the enemy comes, welcome him. When he goes, send him on his way." So the real message here is that in a SD situation you should always take off your trousers... -jubaji

07-05-2007, 02:51 PM	#26 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,110	But wait, there's more... __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

07-05-2007, 03:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
The_Judo_Jibboo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 395	i thought i was so clever as to know the mind of jubaji... forgive the impudence, it would appear my instruction is incomplete __________________ "When the enemy comes, welcome him. When he goes, send him on his way." So the real message here is that in a SD situation you should always take off your trousers... -jubaji

07-05-2007, 06:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
wsdddoa012 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 88	response How old are you jubaji... 10? cause if your making a point then your not coming across clear. __________________ Mike Senior Chief Instructor

07-06-2007, 02:25 AM	#30 (permalink)
wsdddoa012 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 88	response WHOA foul language, I didn't know that was allowed. Man you obviously have some issues so until you can Grow Up and talk like an adult, I will discontinue this conversation. Your ignorance is overwhelming and funny. My apologizes to everyone in the forum for having to witness this. Some people I guess you just can't talk to in a mature fashion. Even if you do make a mistake on a point taken. __________________ Mike Senior Chief Instructor

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