a bit of fat: advantage or disadvantage? - Page 2

**Thai Bri** · 01-07-2007, 08:00 PM

Well, I did say hi to his mum. But be fair, I let him go first!

gabbah · 01-07-2007, 08:02 PM

Nice.

That one should get things going around here!

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 01-07-2007, 08:06 PM

Its a disadvantage. Even if you have some blubber and you get stabbed, its still too late.

jubaji · 01-07-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gay Bri

I think I must have upset jubaji. !

Don't overestimate yourself, champ.

KenshiRyan · 01-07-2007, 09:58 PM

I see, thankyou for your opinion 7r14ngL3Ch0k3.

ryguyrocks · 01-18-2007, 07:07 AM

I have a freind who is 225.
and, i can knock him on his ass, thats because of my technique. And speed compared to his. I also have more muscle because he does not work out. he is a blob. Size does not matter..:P

jubaji · 01-18-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ryguyrocks

I have a freind who is 225.
and, i can knock him on his ass, thats because of my technique. And speed compared to his. I also have more muscle because he does not work out. he is a blob. Size does not matter..:P

That last sentence does not match with the ones previous.

Tom Yum · 01-18-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ryguyrocks

I have a freind who is 225.
and, i can knock him on his ass, thats because of my technique. And speed compared to his. I also have more muscle because he does not work out. he is a blob. Size does not matter..:P

In some cases, size doesn't matter. In some cases, it does.

I bet you couldn't do the same thing to a 225-lb Mike Tyson at his prime...

gabbah · 01-18-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jubaji

That last sentence does not match with the ones previous.

lol, just what I wanted to say, but was too lazy to write.

gabbah · 01-18-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Yum

In some cases, size doesn't matter. In some cases, it does.

I bet you couldn't do the same thing to a 225-lb Mike Tyson at his prime...

It's not the size that matter, it's how you use it. ...or so they say.

Tom Yum · 01-23-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gabbah

It's not the size that matter, it's how you use it. ...or so they say.

I suppose so...

Take Jeff Lacy (174-lber). 24 wins, 17 by KO.

He's not little fireball like Pacquiao but he's not a giant George Foreman wrecking machine either. He's got KO power in both hands.

**Oraenor** · 01-23-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiRyan

Iv been training for a year in martial art, but have never realy had to use what i've learnt except for if im sparring etc, Im just wondering does a bit of fat help as an advantage or disadvantage in a conflict? (im not talking full on overweight monster, just a bit on the sides if you know what i mean), any opinions would be great.

(sorry if this is in the wrong thread, my mistake)

Its often better to have muscle than fat as it is more dense than fat and provides abit of armour. fat really plays no part in any martial arts as martial arts was primarily designed for the little guys to take on the big guys, hence why there are techniques to fighting.

**Oraenor** · 01-23-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Thai Bri

In all seriousness, force equals mass x acceleration (ok guys, I know it is more complicated than this, but there you go).

So, the more mass you have, the more potential power you have. Mass from muscle is preferable, because muscle helps move you around, whereas fat doesn't. But mass is mass.

If you look at the old style wrestlers many of them were a little generous around the belly. Now I am not talking about the fake stuff. I mean the real stuff from yesteryear. They had "extra" as it helped cushion them when they were thrown. It will also cushion blows too.

Another factor is knife defence. If you are stabbed with a three inch knife into a belly that had four inches of fat you will bleed - buut you won't die. Even if the knife was longer the fat will still limit the penetration towards your vital organs.

I do not recommend getting fat as an aid to self protection. You are hardly protecting yourself when you increase your chances of getting obesity related diseases! But you can hit harder and take harder hits with fat. Thats a fat fact!

On a further note on mass, muscle provides you with alot more mass than fat but require less surface area, meaning your more mobile and more agile.
Force can be increased without increasing mass, although increasing mass is the easier option.
In the equation F=MxA, you can increase your acceleration to increase power. Most martial artists tend to favour this method of increasing force as it increases your chances of hitting your opponent first and harder as well as faster defences.
Older wrestlers dont really win due to flubber but because of their experience so they have a fair idea what you are doing next.

Tom Yum · 01-24-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Oraenor

In the equation F=MxA, you can increase your acceleration to increase power. .

P = (F x D)/t

F = M X A

simple algebra... P = (M x A x D)/t

That's some MAD power, get it?

Did you catch any identities in the power equation.... V = D/t

so...

P = M x A x V

So a point-mass can generate power P given its mass M, acceleration (constant) A and velocity V....

Shall we hop over form Newton to Maxwell?

gabbah · 01-24-2007, 03:17 PM

Does "Y" denote your yearly income in USD currency?

We all know money rules the world, so surely it has to be involved in those equations somehow.

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gabbah Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 569	Nice. That one should get things going around here!

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7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,511	Its a disadvantage. Even if you have some blubber and you get stabbed, its still too late.

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KenshiRyan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 77	I see, thankyou for your opinion 7r14ngL3Ch0k3.

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ryguyrocks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	I have a freind who is 225. and, i can knock him on his ass, thats because of my technique. And speed compared to his. I also have more muscle because he does not work out. he is a blob. Size does not matter..:P

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