BB Wolf

I agree this can become a danger. The day I walk into a Krav Maga class, look at at what is fundamentally being taught and say to myself "this is rediculous", will be the day I find something new to train in. Sometimes, when the trend fades, the people who are true to the art stick around and it becomes stronger for it. In the meantime, if the people who come to the school because they want to look like J-Lo keep the doors open for people like me, then I say, let them come, just don't dumb things down for them.
I said it before watch out for Muay Thai-Bo!

IFellOnScissors

Wow...were there any replies from people who actually train seriously in Krav Maga?

Now there is!!

I have trained in Tae Kwon Do (not sport) and Hapkido. They were both great. I wouldn't trade what I gained from them for anything. I wanted to train in something else..something less formal. Something effective and something that would make me work very hard. My first thought was JKD. But then I heard about Krav Maga and decided to check it out...

The killer instinct thing...or the natural instincts...The philosophy is that if you get attacked or find yourself in a situation where confrontation is inevitable, unleash everything you have and don't stop until it's over. The 'natural' really applies to how the punches, kicks and strikes are delivered. If you are at distance from your opponent, kick. The kicks are delivered very quicly and with a lot of power. They resemble Muay Thai kicks to a degree. Targets are groin, knees, thighs, ribs, stomach. Nothing too high. If you are a little closer, punch. Punches are fast and very powerful. At this range the knees come into play. They are brutal. A little closer and the elbows start flying. I would say the natural just means 'what makes sense at the time'

The killer instinct...I don't have a killer instinct but what I do have from the training is the attitude that I do not want confrontation. Ever. But if its 'go' time I amd going to go hard and fast to end it still standing. The defensive side is pretty good. I think Hapkido was better. But KM does a good job of incorporating the defense/redirection with a simultaneous attack. They do ground work that is pretty effective. Weapon defense is good. The mental training is what sets it apart though. That and the ferocity behind it is something to be reckoned with!!

I read something about it being a trend. Krav Maga has been around for quite a while. It got its beginnings in the 1940s and has been used around the world. I don't know much about any of the other arts other than those I listed but here's what I have so far...If I were to put me with the TKD and Hapkido up against me with Krav Maga...I think no one would walk away. It isn't something to be dismissed. Besides it is a lot of fun to practice. Try it! You will like it.

BB Wolf

Did you not read my posts?
I have not been training long in KM, but I definitely train seriously!



Gotta agree with you there. I love it. BTW, Good description of the art form.

IFellOnScissors

I guess I did miss your replies. Sorry about that!

It was pretty late last night and I wish I would have put more in there about the mental side. The drills they do are great for going from 'just talking' to responding to a threat...off balance, attacked from behind, knocked to the ground, etc.

Anyway, thanks for replying. Last night was the first night I visited this forum. I'll probably be up all the time now. It's funn to see other people's thoughts.

Szczepankiewicz

Krav Maga = A bunch of Tree Lovin' Hippie Crap

We all know you don't know Krav Maga from a pop tart.

IFellOnScissors

What the hell is a pop tart?

Szczepankiewicz

Perhaps I should have said Cheesy Poofs, fatass?

IFellOnScissors

I think I just figured out who you are. The Southpark reference and the city you are in are pointing me in your direction.

Szczepankiewicz

YOU sir are a freakin' genius.

Bad Kitty!

Szczepankiewicz

also, I'd request that you exercise a little descretion if you please.

I'd hate to sick the Gay Mafia on you...


I wonder how long it would have taken to figger it out?


What say thee, Coidman?

coidman

I think you might have to be a little more direct. If this guy runs with scissors, he can't be too with it.

Of course, maybe he just falls on them. It's one of those hapkido moves.

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GQchris

people are bashing on Krav Maga; the IDF and other Military forces use Krav Maga... last I checked the McDojoization was being done on BJJ, everybody and there mama is changind their name to Gracie and teaching this "lethal" art to soccer moms and 13 year old boys everywhere.. wtf

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SamuraiGuy

Feathersnake.. I think that was the username... sorry if I got it wrong..

I think in all my Krav Maga training.... I learned... oh what maybe...2 joint locks....

One was the armbar, which I already knew.
One was the Kimura which I already knew.

And those were in the grappling portion... Joint locks? Dont talk about what you dont know about... Krav Maga is about hitting someone repeatedly to subdue them... I've used this example many times before, you get the rear mount you bash their face in the ground to subdue them not RNC them.

With that said, where does this "no contact" in Krav Maga come from, at the place I trained we hit pads every single class, and sparred alot. There were even times when we went outside to fight, or went outside and walked through "an obstacle course", where you deal with wahtever comes at you, sometimes nothing came at you... You never knew.

As for the whole "do this krav maga and you could take out a man this size" thing... well... as a person whos trained Krav Maga, I would say its effective for both men and women... more effective for both men and women (in a Self Defense situation) than almost any unarmed system of self defense, but would I say it gives J-Lo the ability to beat up the guy in that movie.. (I have seen it BTW), hell no.

Would it give her a better shot, hell yes, a better shot than most other things that you can teach women, hell yes, is a krav maga trained woman gonna be able to take on a 6'0 180 pound average man whos seen a few fights and been in a school yard fight or a bar fight or two... maybe.. she'd have the tools... but I'd still pick the man.

I dont know its kinda fucked up for RBSD its good, better than most things I've seen/trained,

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Cyclops

I agree. I haven't seen very many joint locks in KM either. Mayeb I missed something.