The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**Thai Bri** · 11-28-2003, 02:15 PM

OK, I know all the argumernts about whether or not you should go to the floor in self defence. Regardless, you still will struggle to beat any of the Gracie fighters in a one on one. They took groundfighting to a new level, and the world is playing catch up.

But isn't it ironic to see the SHITE they are proposing as "self defence"? Stupid reactions to grabs, that only work if the "attacker" agrees to stand still long enough. I havent read the whole book, just the choice bits of crap they out in a recent edition of Grappling magazine.

The Gracies are to self defence what Adolf Hitler was to pacifism.

Sean Dempsey · 11-28-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Thai Bri
The Gracies are to self defence what Adolf Hitler was to pacifism.

None of this is relevant if you carry a sword-gun.

MrPoopy · 11-28-2003, 06:05 PM

Now now, Bri. They do mention that the defenses to knife and gun techniques are what you might wanna do if you have no other choice.

The book didn't really present anything new, and I would desperately search for another option before using any of the defenses against weapons.

I gave that book away to someone as a b-day gift

swan104 · 11-28-2003, 08:19 PM

I've seen a few of those defences, and they remind me of some of the defences in the Bruce Lee's Fighting Method book (the self defence one). The thing about those books are they are two dimensional, and don't take other variables into play.

**Thai Bri** · 11-29-2003, 10:54 AM

Putting weapons/fireamrs issues aside. That shit doesn't even work against unarmed attacks. They miss the whole point. You cannot have a list of tricks i.e. "if he does this you twist that" mentality. You will never male them work. All you can do is have a small number of techniques with a high number of applications.

Szczepankiewicz · 11-29-2003, 01:40 PM

Teaching 'self defense' out of a book is a bad idea.

Learning 'self defense' out of a book is a worse idea.

Seeing naked pictures of Bri Thai in a 'self defense' book is the worst idea.

**Thai Bri** · 11-29-2003, 01:43 PM

Believe me, he knows. He's done all three.

Szczepankiewicz · 11-29-2003, 01:45 PM

I'm like your sister, I'll try anything once.

**Thai Bri** · 11-29-2003, 02:11 PM

Shes tried me twice.

Tom Yum · 11-29-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
I'm like your sister, I'll try anything once.

Do you wear wiggs, make-up and panties?

GACK!

Szczepankiewicz · 11-30-2003, 03:35 PM

Tom if you'll come up for the Hapkido Seminar mate I'm open to try anything.

Szczepankiewicz · 11-30-2003, 03:35 PM

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Shes tried me twice.

Lucky strumpet!

**Thai Bri** · 11-30-2003, 03:36 PM

She reckoned I was almost as good as me Dad.

Szczepankiewicz · 12-01-2003, 07:34 PM

Whatever.... Like you know who your father is.

**Thai Bri** · 12-01-2003, 09:32 PM

Do you have a bike?

11-28-2003, 02:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Gracie Self Defence Book OK, I know all the argumernts about whether or not you should go to the floor in self defence. Regardless, you still will struggle to beat any of the Gracie fighters in a one on one. They took groundfighting to a new level, and the world is playing catch up. But isn't it ironic to see the SHITE they are proposing as "self defence"? Stupid reactions to grabs, that only work if the "attacker" agrees to stand still long enough. I havent read the whole book, just the choice bits of crap they out in a recent edition of Grappling magazine. The Gracies are to self defence what Adolf Hitler was to pacifism.

11-28-2003, 06:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now now, Bri. They do mention that the defenses to knife and gun techniques are what you might wanna do if you have no other choice. The book didn't really present anything new, and I would desperately search for another option before using any of the defenses against weapons. I gave that book away to someone as a b-day gift __________________ MrPoopy

11-28-2003, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
swan104 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 410 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've seen a few of those defences, and they remind me of some of the defences in the Bruce Lee's Fighting Method book (the self defence one). The thing about those books are they are two dimensional, and don't take other variables into play. __________________ Steven

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11-29-2003, 10:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Putting weapons/fireamrs issues aside. That shit doesn't even work against unarmed attacks. They miss the whole point. You cannot have a list of tricks i.e. "if he does this you twist that" mentality. You will never male them work. All you can do is have a small number of techniques with a high number of applications.

11-29-2003, 01:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Teaching 'self defense' out of a book is a bad idea. Learning 'self defense' out of a book is a worse idea. Seeing naked pictures of Bri Thai in a 'self defense' book is the worst idea.

11-29-2003, 01:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Believe me, he knows. He's done all three.

11-29-2003, 01:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm like your sister, I'll try anything once.

11-29-2003, 02:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Shes tried me twice.

11-30-2003, 03:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tom if you'll come up for the Hapkido Seminar mate I'm open to try anything.

11-30-2003, 03:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	She reckoned I was almost as good as me Dad.

12-01-2003, 07:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Whatever.... Like you know who your father is.

12-01-2003, 09:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Do you have a bike?

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