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Old 01-06-2004, 09:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I did boxin about 4 monthes. I dont do it no more, not because Im enough of this, I just need sum break. All I know about it is thats a good technique for close range. However it is hard to box against a kikboxer. So Im lookin for a martial art that would shorten range fast so I can box the shit out of u den
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I did boxin about 4 monthes. I dont do it no more, not because Im enough of this, I just need sum break. All I know about it is thats a good technique for close range. However it is hard to box against a kikboxer. So Im lookin for a martial art that would shorten range fast so I can box the shit out of u den
i would go with wing chun for close range boxing....it is hard to box a kick boxwe for exactly that...he can kick lol....naw but for fast hands try wing chun..
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I did boxin about 4 monthes. I dont do it no more, not because Im enough of this, I just need sum break. All I know about it is thats a good technique for close range. However it is hard to box against a kikboxer. So Im lookin for a martial art that would shorten range fast so I can box the shit out of u den
How about using your legs and run up to your opponent, maybe get hit by a kick or 2, then box the shit out of him. I don't think you need another martial art, you just need to rethink the way you fight so that you can take advantage of your boxing skills. Give you time also, 4 months of training is not alot...
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How about using your legs and run up to your opponent, maybe get hit by a kick or 2, then box the shit out of him. I don't think you need another martial art, you just need to rethink the way you fight so that you can take advantage of your boxing skills.
Yea I may use my legies, but I dont think its a good idea to jus run. Kikboxin is boxin technique + kix from diff martial arts. So why would I run to him?? He ll use them same boxin technix + he'll kik me in the legs. (Bethink Botha vs Abidi)

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Thats right. However, I need break
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Find a Muay Thai teacher and learn some good hard leg kicks. With your boxing skills thats about the only leg attack you will need. You get more reach and power by staying low, and a few kicks to the thighs will ground their kicks and open them up for your boxing work.
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learn some good hard leg kicks. With your boxing skills thats about the only leg attack you will need. You get more reach and power by staying low, and a few kicks to the thighs will ground their kicks and open them up for your boxing work.
Thats right

But Im lookin for martial art that would shorten distance fast, really
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But Im lookin for martial art that would shorten distance fast, really
Boxing will do exactly that. But you have to start sparring against other MA than boxing. You just have to stop worrying about getting hit by a kick and rush in and start boxing. If you're scared of getting hit then i would suggest you take dancing lessons. But if you wanna fight with your hands then you have to practice. When you see your opponent starts a kicking motion, that's when you have to step in. Not block then try to close the gap. If you do this correctly the kick won't hurt as much cause you are close to his body. Then you can knock him out or at least try...
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Boxing will do exactly that. But you have to start sparring against other MA than boxing. You just have to stop worrying about getting hit by a kick and rush in and start boxing.
I jus want it to look beautiful. Gettin hitted by diff kix and then go boxin, that isnt beautiful. By the why advanced martial artist could use advantages of kikboxin easyly, like doin Muay Thai straight body kik, then addin jabs and finally performin lowkik...Ouch
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Beautiful? Fightin ain't pretty son, just win.
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Beautiful? Fightin ain't pretty son, just win.
Fightin ain't pretty, but you can make it look beautiful. (I dont mean all that fancy shit like capoeira though)

I dont think that takin kix then do somethin bout it is the correct way
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I dont think that takin kix then do somethin bout it is the correct way
You are right. That is exactly what I said. Don't take a kick then do something. Take a kick and do something at the same time!
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Take a kick and do something at the same time!
Do you think kikboxer will perform axekix or highkix. Hell no. It is goin to be knee/shin/thigh lowkix and straight kix, all of this are longer then boxers arms. So kikboxer is goin to win time, and winnnin time and lowkikin me is best way to win a boxer.

P.S. I know the advantages and disadvantages of boxing and kikboxing. Kikboxer will lose to boxer by boxing rules coz boxer got beter boxin strategies n tactics, however boxer is no match for kikboxer by kikboxin rules ( bethink botha vs abidi)

I see that you guys know enough bout how can I use my boxin skills, however all I need is names of martial arts that would teach you to shorten distance quikly
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P.S. I know the advantages and disadvantages of boxing and kikboxing. Kikboxer will lose to boxer by boxing rules coz boxer got beter boxin strategies n tactics, however boxer is no match for kikboxer by kikboxin rules ( bethink botha vs abidi)

I see that you guys know enough bout how can I use my boxin skills, however all I need is names of martial arts that would teach you to shorten distance quikly
Sooooooo you're fighting a kickboxer with kicks allowed, (a kickboxer's game), yet you want to just straight box him with just hands? Sounds to me like you're already at a technical disadvantage - it's no knock on you, it's just that how do you expect to win a match with just hands when you said before he'll be using knee drives and low kicks - plus if you shorten range, he'll be tryin to tie you up and then you'll be eating knees?

My first suggestion would be to learn muay thai.

My second suggestion for closing distances would be to learn muay thai . Seriously, how else are you going to learn to breach a muay thai fighter's defense then to actually LEARN how the defense is set up, then go from there?

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if you shorten range, he'll be tryin to tie you up and then you'll be eating knees?
I really like Muay Thai. Yes, I think Im goin to learn it too, atleast for knees technique. However, knees r close range moves too and it is hard to develope knees against anotha Muay Thai fighta (unless its a flyin/jumpin knee)

By the way if I had arms longer then your legs, I think, I would jus punch u to win. On close range Its the same thing, but a kikboxa wont let u get close. He'll kik you bad so you ll lose your agility and speed.

I personaly dont believe that 'k1 kikboxin' is the best martial art. It is good, but it just doesnt fits 'Fly like a butterfly, Sting like a bee'

I can fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee, but I have to get on stingin range first
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hEmPY,
Perhaps Jeet Kune Do is for you.
You will learn to close the distance fast. In Jeet Kune Do, you learn to intercept the opponent's attack; this by default means that you usually-if not always-close the distance and fast.
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