The Ultimate in Martial Arts

jdog55 · 01-13-2004, 01:36 PM

How do you defend against a fighter that just comes out throwing 10 punches a second. I know he is using a lot of energy in the first seconds of the fight but it hurts like hell if he has any accuracy. How do you defend against this in a mma fight and also how do you defend against this in a street fight?

Jdog55

Strepto · 01-13-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jdog55

How do you defend against a fighter that just comes out throwing 10 punches a second. I know he is using a lot of energy in the first seconds of the fight but it hurts like hell if he has any accuracy. How do you defend against this in a mma fight and also how do you defend against this in a street fight?

Jdog55

Maybe clinch then knee the crap out of him...

Or take him down.

jdog55 · 01-13-2004, 01:44 PM

As far as mma i'm talking about a vale tudo fighter that comes out swinging as fast as he can.

Jdog55

Serrada · 01-13-2004, 02:03 PM

You need to distance yourself until the opportunity presents itself to go into the clinch. The training needed to do this is to “close the gap”. All MA have entry techniques. (i.e. UFC I Royce did a high lunging front kick and went low for the takedown) Also, follow punches and kicks in, Meaning get the timing and know that once the strike has been committed you don’t have to worry about that strike any until it resets to a position to generate power, so what you do is follow the strike in for the clinch and keep your guard up. Hope that make since to you.

platinum_angel · 01-13-2004, 02:52 PM

double leg takedown

m7777c · 01-14-2004, 12:02 AM

yep, hit a double , slam him then work for the mount. his punches wont be that bad if he's throwing from his back

JaredExtreme · 01-14-2004, 02:05 AM

Are you referring to that oldschool Belfort attack in the UFC?

Well you can't block all the punches, slipping would be difficult given his speed and accuracy, really the only things you can do are start swinging yourself or go for the takedown.

chris davis 200 · 01-14-2004, 07:51 AM

attack his knees, maybe drop to your back and trap/ kick his load bearing leg.

he aint gonna punch ya or catch ya with broken knees.

If we are talking comp - then as every one has already mentioned, close the gap, double leg.

cheers
chris

rperumal · 01-14-2004, 09:57 AM

I currently train MMA and our instructor always says to "answer back". If he says hallelujah (throws a bunch of punches vitor style at you), you say amen (throw a bunch of punches vitor style right back), or shoot and take him down to the ground. Don't turtle down, that's probably one of the worst things you can do if he's hammering you that hard. Having practice taking punches to the noggin helps in a situation like that too. You're less likely to be surprised by what happens and will have a relative idea of what to expect.

-RP

Tom Yum · 01-14-2004, 03:12 PM

Keep your head a moving target and counter as soon as you can see the opening.

tekshow · 01-14-2004, 04:00 PM

keep the distance for a few moments and then attack with a decent stop-hit counter... keep that guard up and go for a clinch, bear hug, or double leg takedown as previously suggested. basically if your opp wants to punch so bad that he goes into wild flurrys take that advantage away from him and control the situation... its your choice to be in range.

just my .02

fool with fist · 01-14-2004, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jdog55

How do you defend against a fighter that just comes out throwing 10 punches a second. I know he is using a lot of energy in the first seconds of the fight but it hurts like hell if he has any accuracy. How do you defend against this in a mma fight and also how do you defend against this in a street fight?

Jdog55

depends on your sense of honor, if your in a street fight, and you could care less about honor, kick him in the balls (not that i would do that). as far as mma, do the takedown.

Seifer2399 · 01-15-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jdog55

How do you defend against a fighter that just comes out throwing 10 punches a second. I know he is using a lot of energy in the first seconds of the fight but it hurts like hell if he has any accuracy. How do you defend against this in a mma fight and also how do you defend against this in a street fight?

Jdog55

Key thing is that it may "hurt like hell", but chances are it's not going to knock you out if you play it right. If he's charging straight into you, change your level and take him down - if the takedown doesn't work, at least you'll be in much closer range to clinch - from the clinch, you've neutralized that insane punching barrage and nullified the much needed leverage for a KO punch.
I also like Royce's strategy of using a front push kick then go for the takedown . . muay thai fighters use the front push kick from the FRONT leg as a jab, and also to keep the opposing fighter at bay. Watch some muay thai matches to see what I'm talking about, or go to an MMA school to learn about the takedowns / clinch etc.

Best regards,

Seifer2399

blade_cs · 01-16-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jdog55

How do you defend against a fighter that just comes out throwing 10 punches a second. I know he is using a lot of energy in the first seconds of the fight but it hurts like hell if he has any accuracy. How do you defend against this in a mma fight and also how do you defend against this in a street fight?

Jdog55

What about defending against all out grapplers?

Ikuro · 01-17-2004, 08:29 AM

after determining his range from the first few punches, casually step into the very edge of his reach with your inside foot forward. Wait for a punch that you like, and pivot to the outside while advancing forward. Try to lock his arm into your inside (either into your body, or in the web of your bicept), shift your outside hip into him, your outside shoulder down and inward; and break one of those arms with an open palm strike to the outter elbow.. a little harsh, and no good in tourney.. but effective!

01-13-2004, 01:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
jdog55 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 8 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Defending against all out punchers How do you defend against a fighter that just comes out throwing 10 punches a second. I know he is using a lot of energy in the first seconds of the fight but it hurts like hell if he has any accuracy. How do you defend against this in a mma fight and also how do you defend against this in a street fight? Jdog55

01-13-2004, 02:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Serrada Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You need to distance yourself until the opportunity presents itself to go into the clinch. The training needed to do this is to “close the gap”. All MA have entry techniques. (i.e. UFC I Royce did a high lunging front kick and went low for the takedown) Also, follow punches and kicks in, Meaning get the timing and know that once the strike has been committed you don’t have to worry about that strike any until it resets to a position to generate power, so what you do is follow the strike in for the clinch and keep your guard up. Hope that make since to you. __________________ “There is no best style. Dedication to ones art will achieve the result one desires.” http://www.boudicca.de/k2.htm

01-13-2004, 02:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
platinum_angel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: heaven and hell Posts: 714 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	double leg takedown __________________ In order to experience true peace you must first overcome true hardship. remember the wind, for it flows through all of us. I like smeg-ma chips. for all those who i offend............i don't give a shit

01-14-2004, 02:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Are you referring to that oldschool Belfort attack in the UFC? Well you can't block all the punches, slipping would be difficult given his speed and accuracy, really the only things you can do are start swinging yourself or go for the takedown. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

01-14-2004, 04:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
tekshow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: portland, OR Posts: 103 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	keep the distance for a few moments and then attack with a decent stop-hit counter... keep that guard up and go for a clinch, bear hug, or double leg takedown as previously suggested. basically if your opp wants to punch so bad that he goes into wild flurrys take that advantage away from him and control the situation... its your choice to be in range. just my .02 __________________ the truth is the knowledge of self

01-13-2004, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
jdog55 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 8 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	As far as mma i'm talking about a vale tudo fighter that comes out swinging as fast as he can. Jdog55

01-14-2004, 12:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
m7777c Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fremont, Ca. Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yep, hit a double , slam him then work for the mount. his punches wont be that bad if he's throwing from his back

01-14-2004, 07:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	attack his knees, maybe drop to your back and trap/ kick his load bearing leg. he aint gonna punch ya or catch ya with broken knees. If we are talking comp - then as every one has already mentioned, close the gap, double leg. cheers chris

01-14-2004, 09:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
rperumal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Posts: 5 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I currently train MMA and our instructor always says to "answer back". If he says hallelujah (throws a bunch of punches vitor style at you), you say amen (throw a bunch of punches vitor style right back), or shoot and take him down to the ground. Don't turtle down, that's probably one of the worst things you can do if he's hammering you that hard. Having practice taking punches to the noggin helps in a situation like that too. You're less likely to be surprised by what happens and will have a relative idea of what to expect. -RP

01-14-2004, 03:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Keep your head a moving target and counter as soon as you can see the opening.

01-17-2004, 08:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ikuro Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 7 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	after determining his range from the first few punches, casually step into the very edge of his reach with your inside foot forward. Wait for a punch that you like, and pivot to the outside while advancing forward. Try to lock his arm into your inside (either into your body, or in the web of your bicept), shift your outside hip into him, your outside shoulder down and inward; and break one of those arms with an open palm strike to the outter elbow.. a little harsh, and no good in tourney.. but effective!

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