The Ultimate in Martial Arts

JaredExtreme · 04-08-2004, 07:32 PM

I know a substantial amount of people doing BJJ and sub wrestling wear cups. I personally do not. My belief is that wearing a cup can negatively affect your technique. For example, if you are wearing a cup and you go for an armbar from the guard, you do not need to wory about the angle of your pelvis and whether your opponent's arm is going to squish your genitals. Therefore you keep practicing incorrectly while wearing the cup. This could be very detrimental when you might have to apply an armbar on the street and you're not wearing a cup.... all of a sudden you're hurting yourself more than your hurting the opponent.

I'd like to hear everyone's perspective on this subject.

platinum_angel · 04-08-2004, 10:45 PM

i don't wear it during practice and if i was in a tourny i wouldn't wear one, because like you said it might be detremental to my performence. now if there was striking involved like vale tude then yea i would wear one

IPON · 04-08-2004, 10:47 PM

You can't wear a cup on the street!!!!!

gracilva · 04-09-2004, 12:33 AM

Yeah i do, always, my jewels are very important to me

I also train doing armbars on either side of the groin so it doesn't
affect technique.
I catch a train to and from training in some hostile enviroments
so i do wear my cup on the way home (just in case)
Surprise surprise when some asshole thinks, i'll just kick this guy
in the nuts and take his wallet

ryanhall · 04-09-2004, 01:22 AM

Dude, do you ever do guard passing? Shin across the thigh can easily become shin in the nads. Definitely not something I enjoy. I didn't wear a cup for about the first week and a half that I was in BJJ. After that short but educational period of time, I decided that a cup was a good thing to have. Always wear a cup--shit happens.

cakegirl · 04-09-2004, 07:36 AM

Don't wear one. Then again, I am a girl.

doubleouch · 04-09-2004, 10:26 AM

Don't usually wear one. They are kind of uncomfortable. I don't find my techniques hampered in any way when I do. It sucks getting my nads tweaked every so often. But I'll take that risk for the sake of comfort. It is a bit of a non issue.

radicus · 04-12-2004, 12:55 PM

What if you have girls in your bjj class? I think it might bother them if you're going for an armbar an their arm is in your crouch.

Szczepankiewicz · 04-12-2004, 04:01 PM

Always.

Although I do enjoy training with those who argue against it. Oops, didn't mean to put my knee there as I was passing by...

gracilva · 04-13-2004, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Szczepankiewicz

Always.

Although I do enjoy training with those who argue against it. Oops, didn't mean to put my knee there as I was passing by...

You sadistic magnificent bastard.

**gregimotis** · 04-13-2004, 12:36 PM

I don't wear one in training. I have had the cup displaced while grappling and gotten the old 'one in-one out'. I'll tell ya that ain't no fun either.

For tournaments or situations where I don't know/trust my partners, cup is better than no cup, IMO.

Szczepankiewicz · 04-13-2004, 05:53 PM

I don't know why I really wear a cup. The wife keeps the goods in a mason jar on her nightstand...

**Britt** · 04-14-2004, 06:25 PM

I generally wear a cup if everyone else in the class is, and don't if everyone else isn't. I'm kind of a weenie that way. I prefer not to, because they do mess up armbars and such for me, but I can see how having the jewels knocked up in my throat might negatively affect technique as well.

NaTurE-of-WaTeR · 04-15-2004, 03:50 PM

I wear a cup when grappling...too many painful expoerences not to...besides there is nothing wrong with protecting yourself when practicing..just know that on the street anything goes......

seany85 · 04-15-2004, 03:55 PM

i always have a cup on when practicing.

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04-08-2004, 07:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	For all the Grapplers: Cup or no cup? I know a substantial amount of people doing BJJ and sub wrestling wear cups. I personally do not. My belief is that wearing a cup can negatively affect your technique. For example, if you are wearing a cup and you go for an armbar from the guard, you do not need to wory about the angle of your pelvis and whether your opponent's arm is going to squish your genitals. Therefore you keep practicing incorrectly while wearing the cup. This could be very detrimental when you might have to apply an armbar on the street and you're not wearing a cup.... all of a sudden you're hurting yourself more than your hurting the opponent. I'd like to hear everyone's perspective on this subject. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

04-08-2004, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
platinum_angel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: heaven and hell Posts: 714 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i don't wear it during practice and if i was in a tourny i wouldn't wear one, because like you said it might be detremental to my performence. now if there was striking involved like vale tude then yea i would wear one __________________ In order to experience true peace you must first overcome true hardship. remember the wind, for it flows through all of us. I like smeg-ma chips. for all those who i offend............i don't give a shit

04-08-2004, 10:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,573 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You can't wear a cup on the street!!!!! __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

04-09-2004, 12:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
gracilva Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 296 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah i do, always, my jewels are very important to me I also train doing armbars on either side of the groin so it doesn't affect technique. I catch a train to and from training in some hostile enviroments so i do wear my cup on the way home (just in case) Surprise surprise when some asshole thinks, i'll just kick this guy in the nuts and take his wallet __________________ peace.....for now

04-09-2004, 01:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
ryanhall Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,247 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dude, do you ever do guard passing? Shin across the thigh can easily become shin in the nads. Definitely not something I enjoy. I didn't wear a cup for about the first week and a half that I was in BJJ. After that short but educational period of time, I decided that a cup was a good thing to have. Always wear a cup--shit happens. __________________ "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"

04-09-2004, 07:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
cakegirl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: under a pebble Posts: 880 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't wear one. Then again, I am a girl. __________________

04-09-2004, 10:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
doubleouch Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: portland, or Posts: 418 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't usually wear one. They are kind of uncomfortable. I don't find my techniques hampered in any way when I do. It sucks getting my nads tweaked every so often. But I'll take that risk for the sake of comfort. It is a bit of a non issue.

04-12-2004, 12:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
radicus Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What if you have girls in your bjj class? I think it might bother them if you're going for an armbar an their arm is in your crouch.

04-12-2004, 04:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Always. Although I do enjoy training with those who argue against it. Oops, didn't mean to put my knee there as I was passing by...

04-13-2004, 12:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
gregimotis Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Still residing in the Premiere members booth Posts: 2,011 Groans: 4 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't wear one in training. I have had the cup displaced while grappling and gotten the old 'one in-one out'. I'll tell ya that ain't no fun either. For tournaments or situations where I don't know/trust my partners, cup is better than no cup, IMO. __________________ . . I am Tired. Tired. Tired.

04-13-2004, 05:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't know why I really wear a cup. The wife keeps the goods in a mason jar on her nightstand...

04-14-2004, 06:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
Britt Premiere Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 601 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I generally wear a cup if everyone else in the class is, and don't if everyone else isn't. I'm kind of a weenie that way. I prefer not to, because they do mess up armbars and such for me, but I can see how having the jewels knocked up in my throat might negatively affect technique as well.

04-15-2004, 03:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
NaTurE-of-WaTeR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: florida Posts: 55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I wear a cup when grappling...too many painful expoerences not to...besides there is nothing wrong with protecting yourself when practicing..just know that on the street anything goes...... __________________ UNDER THE SWORD LIFTED HIGH THERES A HELL THAT MAKES YOU TREMBLE BUT GO AHEAD AND YOULL HAVE THE LAND OF BLISS

04-15-2004, 03:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
seany85 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 272 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i always have a cup on when practicing.

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